• thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world
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    21 hours ago

    I thought some of the specific mosquitoes that prey on humans can be killed with little side effects. Or is that just my cognitive bias dreaming of a better world

  • Mustakrakish@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    The small section of mosquitoes that bite humans actually don’t serve a critical niche like that, and just spread disease. Why the idea has been floated at sterilizing them.

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    24 hours ago

    Nothing evolves to have a purpose, something just mutated by chance that happens to serve a beneficial function to the environment and other organisms

    Also I’m pretty sure birds, bats and plants can eat other bugs

    What’s the statistics on bug food for birds and plants ?

  • randomname@sh.itjust.works
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    24 hours ago

    If screworms went extinct there wouldn’t be any animals starving… same with a lot of pests. guinea worm for example.

  • Klnsfw 🏳️‍🌈@lemmynsfw.com
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    Species do not exist for a purpose. They are important in their ecosystem, that’s all.

    And even if they don’t have a role, that doesn’t make their existence any less valuable.

  • Match!!@pawb.social
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    2 days ago

    i am under the impression that mosquitos, as an invasive species, do not fill an important ecological niche and could go extinct and be replaced by other insects

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      2 days ago

      This has been a common sentiment but it hasn’t been proven in any substantial way to my knowledge. I personally doubt it’s accurate. That’s not to say the entire ecosystem would collapse but there would likely be consequences.

      That said, the other commenter is correct that there are many introduced mosquito species that could probably be eradicated from their non-native range without major ecological harm. And the species that are the worst pests in human cities tend to be introduced, so eliminating them might significantly reduce the level of bites and disease transmission for people.

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        Mosquitos are a nuisance to every mammal, I think if we could talk to animals this is how it would go down

        Human: “So anyways we’ve been mulling over making the mosquito extinct, but it might have some consequences for yo…”

        Mammals: “WTF BRO YOU COULD HAVE DONE THAT THE ENTIRE TIME! WHY TF ARE YOU STILL HERE GET RID OF THOSE FUCKERS!”

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          2 days ago

          TBF humans historically have been pretty lax in doing anything simply because it was a good thing to do

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          Yeah I mean the ethics of how humans relate to wild mammals are so complicated and confusing that I’m not even going to go there.

    • cm0002@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      The mosquito one is absolutely BS, there’s 6k+ species of mosquitoes but only like a couple bite humans

      The bats and shit will be fine, it’s time to eradicate mosquitoes!

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    We are the only species out of the ecologic system, we need the nature, but the nature don’t need us.

  • CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world
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    Ok but I still think the mosquito thing is worth a try. I’m even willing to live alongside wasps but mosquitoes gotta go!

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    How many species of birds and bats eat just mosquitoes though, or a high enough percentage that they would go extinct rather than shift to rely more on their other prey species, even if at a smaller population? And are those particular species of birds and bats worth the consequences of having mosquitoes?

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      Which would maybe force some other animals to change their behaviour slightly more, which in turn affects yet other species. And so the butterfly effect rolls on.

      Or it doesn’t and the system stabilises in another state. Who knows, can we actually know it with a high enough certainty or are the dependencies and behavioural guesses too complex?

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        I mean, has the system ever not eventually stabilized in another state? The fact that we have had extinctions, quite a lot of them even involving most species that have ever existed, and yet complex life and ecosystems still exist, would suggest that life will find a way to adapt around such a loss given time.

    • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today
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      Wasps are actually pretty cool by in large. I’ve only been stung twice by them. Once when I was a kid and it sucked and also don’t remember what I was doing. The most recent time was a few weeks ago. They built a nest in the control area of a dryer I was selling. I stuck my hand right up in their nest, and felt what I thought was electric shocks despite this dryer being unplugged for a few days. I don’t blame them and the pain subsided in minutes(also wasn’t very bad to begin with). And they are a critical player in agricultural pest control. I run into wasps all the time and have only been stung twice in forty years. Wasps, like spiders, are bros as far as I’m concerned.

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        Wasps are just fine. We’re recently learning their tiny brains have enough pattern recognition to recognize/remember a human face. Guess how they feel about humans screaming and waving and spazzing out? They never touch my pet pig, because he doesn’t hassle 'em. Let a nest grow under my front door, deliberately avoided looking at them, stayed chill. No problem.

        HORNETS OTOH CAN DIE IN A FUCKING FIRE.

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        Alas, I legitimately have spheksophobia. I appreciate their role in nature, but I don’t want them anywhere near me.