If I’m paying monthly for a service without ads and I see a single (1) advertisement, I should at least get a month of free subscription because the other party is in breach of contract.
I have premium too once I saw an ad and complained and it turned out to be a bug. I even had engineers reach out with questions when they were fixing the issue.
Maybe that has happened here? They have announced any changes.
Fucking called it
The only benefit now, but what if they start to serve 30 non-skippable ads without premium and ONLY 5 with premium, what a deal! Right?
the “lesser evil” strategy is so hot rn
Quick, what’s tomorrow’s winning numbers?
More like next years
Not the ones you picked
8 6 7 5 30 9
4, 8, 15, 16, 23, and 42
WE HAVE TO GO BACK!
No
Does lemmy have agedlikewine and agedlikemilk?
Fuck you man! You gave them the idea.
wpggLol that is gold
Probably the lower tier of premium that’s being tested in Germany.
https://www.androidauthority.com/youtube-premium-lite-returns-3491193/
Huh weird, the only reason to use Premium is to cut out the adverts.
“Would you like to buy Premium?” “Ooh, what do I get?” “YOU GET NOTHING! GOOD DAY SIR!”
Less ads I guess? Idk
The add is German for sure so that would make sense
It also says “DE” next to the logo, so yeah.
Also barbie Deutsch…hmm, we may need to hire a forensic scientist to solve this.
Ge(t)sponsored!
Redditor username have Germany too.
And they have a German accent. I can tell from the way they type.
Having seen plenty of pixels in my time, I can confirm that those are German pixels.
German data comes in bittes
If Premium Lite was like described in the article, just ad free YouTube without other features like YouTube Music, but for half the price, then it would actually be a good deal
But since the user is getting ads it seems like something else
The poor-mans-premium. Subpremium. Ingenious.
Imagine paying money to see 2 fucking ads before a video.
As another reply said already
Imagine cable tv! (in the US at least, and, it seems, Canada, too)
It is so absurd until you realize people already accepted that shit… wtf!!!
Yes, but this is german and in Germany most TV is free with ads or paid without ads.
No, most TV in Germany is either paid and with ads (ARD, ZDF, or private stations with HD+) , or free and with even more ads (RTL, Pro7 etc. in SD resolution). Paid TV without ads (Sky) is only used by a small minority
And the few ad supported stations that are free are only free if you use Satellite TV, half of Germany still uses cable TV and has to pay a monthly fee to Vodafone for those, in addition to our broadcasting fees that everyone has to pay
Source: Am German
Okay, it is possible to get them for free (except the ÖR which I forgot, because the fee is mandatory for each household) which is what I meant but yes, there are lots of ads, but american TV also has I would say as many ads.
Source: also German
You just described Amazon Prime TV
Imagine paying money to watch YouTube.
Its like going to the local cinema, ads before the movie.
I went to a Regal Cinema for the first time a few months ago and they played 20 minutes of ads that began at the advertised movie start times. Insane.
It’s been that way forever, I remember looking at my watch and thinking about it in the 90s
Was that the first time you’ve ever been to the movies? It’s been like that for decades. Always go in 20 minutes after the start time.
Last time I went it was in black and white and accompanied by an orchestra
I apologize, Captain Colonel Settlements.
I went to my local theater expecting this and ended up missing the first ten minutes of Venom 3. I guess the moral of the story is… Shop local?
I went to my local theater expecting this and ended up missing the first ten minutes of Venom 3
Win win.
It’s always been that way. Previews interspersed with coke ads.
I would just walk out
That’s stupid. Why would you go to the movies just to walk out before it even started?
If it’s past the start time and it’s not on then why would I expect it to come on?
Because you’re not a five year old.
We have different ideas of what start times mean
I do the same with sports
And that’s always been bs. But at least then I can get tmy seats online and show up “late”
Or imagine installing uBlock Origin and not seeing ads at all ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
YouTube really promoted uBlock more than uBlock could even promote itself
Don’t use ublock, use ublock origin, the latter is open-source and trustworthy.
Thank you for the correction! I meant origin and forgot to write it :)
Imagine not using NewPipe, which has no ads and can play music in the background while you use other apps simultaneously (Samsung only feature I’ve heard, but still)
I use vanced, but NewPipe is also great.
🎶cable🎶
Tele license
I get ads on premium sometimes. I think it’s a fluke but def unacceptable
Damn I just have ublock origin, so I never get ads and I don’t pay a cent. Hope your premium membership works out for you tho
Thanks, I’m still grandfathered in at the beta price, but I mainly use it for discovering music to add to my Plex collection. The free YouTube is a bonus for me.
I know it’s temporary, I’ll probably cancel when Im asked to pay full price
Is it really a fluke or just boiling the frog slowly?
Oooh, like when the whole purpose of paying for cable television was no ads?
I get ads on premium sometimes. I think it’s a fluke but def unacceptable
That’s among the reasons why even with premium an ad blocker is required.
It’s a bug with the android app.
I’ve seen it maybe 3 times in 8ish years on my phone. Never once in the TV app.
What is the benefit of premium if you still have to watch ads?
The logo gives you a sense of pride and accomplishment
This reference will never get old tbh.
It’s PR nightmare, but also comedy gold. We all know what they say about gold.
Thanks for the gold, kind stranger?
You can get that logo for free with youtube revanced
Fr tho.
YT music
For everyone on Android, you can just patch the youtube app using ReVanced, which will remove ads, add sponsorblock, allow you to hide shorts and the “People also watched” sections. It can be pretty tricky to patch if you don’t know what you’re doing so feel free to tell me if you run into any issues.
If you don’t care about the algorithm and your feed, you can get the third-party client NewPipe, it’s FOSS
but sometimes crashes while reading some videosIt does not seem to crash anymore, so good thing!Pick one!
I don’t think I’ve ever had NP crash. What do you mean by “some videos”?
Strange, I’ve had a video that crashed newpipe every time but now it seems to play fine. Maybe because it was a “Coming soon” video? Anyways it seems like it works fine now, I also had a bug where leaving the app would crash the app instead of doing background play but I also can’t get it to occur again. I’ll edit my original comment.
I use gray Jay instead, it has become really good the last wave of updates. Wife is on revanced, I’ll change her over if gray jay adds shorts.
There is still a few paper cut issues with it, but over all I prefer gray jay over the official YouTube app.
Well, thanks for sharing! The more options the better!
YouTube ads cost about $0.026 (two and a half cents) per 30 seconds of viewing. This is called cpv.
It’s not fair that ss a viewer I’m not able to bid on my own to show myself an empty ad slot. I’m looking at the price of premium and it definitely seems like more revenue for YouTube than I’d give them from ads.
Ugh, you didn’t even pay for Premium Plus?
Bloody peasant…
these posts are just getting ridiculous. USE. BRAVE. OR. FIREFOX.
did not know that, thanks. well, the biggest plus for me on brave was the background play option. any other browsers you recommend instead of it that has this feature?
You mean on android mobile? Firefox for Android has a extension that works nicely to allow you to play e.g. youtube videos in the background: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/video-background-play-fix/
For iOS though I’ve got no idea, sorry :(
yes android thanks
idk what browsers that is it sorry.
Firefox with ad blocker? You are wasting your money.
My wife uses a TV to watch YouTube, My kid uses a phone, My other kid uses a tablet.
Saying just use ad block isn’t feasible for everyone.
If you use something Android based for watching YouTube on the TV (some TVs, fireTV stick, etc.), you can: https://github.com/yuliskov/SmartTube?tab=readme-ov-file
I haven’t watched a single Ad on YouTube on TV (SmartTube), mobile (ReVanced), or PC (Firefox + uBlock origin) since it became unbearable… five years ago or so?
Even on an iPhone, you can use vinegar to block YT ads. Or Firefox Focus.
+1 for Vinegar. My only real complaint is that I use Firefox as a daily driver, and Vinegar only works with Safari. Even though Firefox is using the Safari engine under the hood on iOS, (because Apple doesn’t allow third party browser engines like Firefox’s Gecko, and forces everyone to use WebKit instead,) it doesn’t support Safari extensions.
I’m fine with switching to Safari to watch YouTube… But since Firefox is my default browser, YouTube links automatically open in Firefox. There isn’t a way to specify that I want everything except YouTube to open in my default browser.
I feel you! Firefox Focus is my daily driver, but occasionally its adblocking doesn’t work on YouTube so I have to manually open it in Safari :c
SmartTube for TV and ReVanced/uYouPlus for Andriod/IOS devices. SmartTube can be tricky to set up depending on the TV, but the mobile apps are relatively simple to get working.
There is no ReVanced or uYouPlus for iOS. You have to sideload that shit, cuz YouTube is too far up Apple’s ass for them to allow something like that on the App Store.
Ironically, they allow Vinegar. But only because it’s a Safari extension (and Apple likes when people use Safari more than they like the money from YouTube.)
You have to sideload that shit
That’s a price you pay when you buy apple. Thankfully it is still an option, just takes a bit more time and effort than on android.
i watch YouTube on my phone with ff+ubo
Other options: NewPipe, Libretube, Grayjay
get youtube revanced for both phone and tablet at least
On a TV use SmartTube. On QN Android device (phone or tablet) use LibreTube (or InnerTune for music)
And then you’re stuck constantly reminding every family member which app to use on which device when they come to you because they’re getting ads or something isn’t working right.
For a single power use that’s fine, for a family with kids, it’s nearly impossible without going crazy and killing them.
I took the YouTube app from the main screen and let only the smartube app so everyone is forced to use it. Worked
The stock YouTube app can be disabled, and they only have one choice… Works for my kids.
This. Remove/block options that allow ads and keep the ones that filter then.
uBlock origin and Sponsorblock work for me on Firefox Android Beta.
And I don’t pay for Spotify or any other music service. Premium yt videos is just a bonus
It used to be free AND ad-free.
Sure but that’s obviously unsustainable
Yes being greedy expecting exponential growth is unsustainable
But something like $7 for premium without ads is absolutely sustainable. But, you know, line go up more.
Yeah the prices do keep creeping up… And they should have kept Premium Lite without YT Music
Do creator even get any real amount of money from the money collected through premium?
Buying premium seems like the dumbest shit imaginable to me.
They do, and based on reported stats it gets them more per viewer. No idea if anybody’s audited those stats though
Not sure about currently but at least a year or two ago creators could see the split of premium views & income vs free views and income and premium views always paid out more
They still can. Whether premium or ad supported views pays more depends on the channel and the value of the adverts that are streamed on it. For channels / topics that advertisers are keen to appear on the ad supported views pay more, for more niche interests the premium views pay more.
They get 2/3, as opposed to 55% of ad revenue and nothing from adblock users
I have ad blocker on my pc, but pay for youtube premium for the TV app and the youtube music.
Use LibreTube or InnerTune, no need to pay. I’ve heard good things about SmartTube too
How long until that’s just made illegal?
This is why you get anti-anti-adblock userscripts in tampermonkey inside of your browser and/or the same inside of adguard for windows. Along with an adblocking DNS
Give them an inch and they’ll take 1000 miles. No more money for google, ever.
Don’t disable uBlock Origin, even when you have YT premium. Using Chrome counts as disabling uBlock Origin
Also, don’t pay for youtube premium if they’re going to serve you ads either way
At that point, you’re just paying for YouTube Music.
Another rip off
Brave still allows uBO to work.
And this is why i,won’t start paying them money. They will never be content and will just keep pushing ads further and further.
Yeah the price will increase or ads or both. But it never just stops. It’s never enough
The growth must continue!
Even when you’ve reached complete market saturation…
- Web: Firefox + uBlock Origin
- Mobile (Android only): Grayjay
- TV (Android): Smarttube
- iPhone/iPad: Brave Browser
Enjoy
Why not Firefox + uBlock Origin for Android?
You can, but I like using an app, because for example I can use pip with grayjay (watch video while doing something else), I’m not sure if that is possible with firefox + ublock
At least for me it doesn’t keep autoplaying videos/going to next video on Youtube (probably a setting I could change somewhere). Grayjay is pretty handy for other media platforms as well.
Newpipe on android also works. Also viewing YouTube via the browser with uBlock origin on mobile works.
Web option also works for mobile.
A more bigger list:
Web: Firefox (or any firefox fork on apple tech you can use safari + adguard) with Ublock origin + libreredirect. The yt frontend sites: Invidious,Piped(broken at this time),Poketube (my personal favorite)
Mobile (Android and Ios): Yattee(The only ios client, broken can only stream local downloaded content or from Poketube servers.),Clipious (invidious client built with flutter),Libretube(Piped,broken at this time),Grayjay (source available not strictly youtube client),Vlc media player (Ios and android not strictly a yt client it can play downloaded videos or stream from poketube servers),Tubular(Newpipe with sponsor block and return youtube dislike not strictly a yt client you can use regular newpipe aswell.),Freetube(unofficial).
PC(Linux,Windows and Macos): Plasmatube, (fits well with kde plasma a little to quiet),QTube(Yt client built with qt,Embeds yts site),Freetube (if your fine with Electron which is using chromium),Vlc media player (said above).
Additionally, there’s freetube for android, newpipe, tubular (newpipe with sponsorblock), and safari + adguard
also grayjay is source available rather than open source
Thanks for correcting me and adding more frontends, I just out some on top of my mind.
Am I just an idiot or is Yattee basically unusable?
It is unusable for me aswell(I tried it on my moms iphone), I changed the reply so that people know.
I want Yattee to succeed. When I could get it to work (like 5% of the time), it was refreshing that I was searching for and finding my own videos, not just being distracted by and fed the YouTube algorithm.
- PC: FreeTube
Also available unofficially for Android.
My premium is about to run out, and I had solutions for both my TV and phone via my TV’s homebrew store and ReVanced. Didn’t know that Brave just completely shut down ads on iPad, though. Amazing tip, thanks a bunch!
