I don’t think in terms of big/small anymore. As a teenager I thought anything longer than 6" was big. I’m wiser now.
Vaginas are super elastic, all different, and tightness/depth can vary by mood, age, exercise and time of the month — the cervix lowers during a period, so a cozy dick on one day might bottom out on another. Because it shapes to whatever’s in it, even a 4" dick can be “felt” all around. Nerve density varies by the part, too, so a 5" dick that hits the good bits feels like more than 7" in-and-out.
Plus, there’s girth and shape to consider. A curve feels bigger because of geometry, putting more pressure on the sides. There’s more friction with a circumsized penis (not always a good thing,) and a prominent glans drags on the downstroke (a good thing.)
How it feels comes down to penis owners knowing how their dick works and communicating.
Honestly, 6.5-7 inches is the point where it starts to both visually look big and when you have to start seriously considering bodily limitations like gag reflex and bottoming out for women or deeper prep for butts. That’s where I would place the cutoff especially since the average is a bit smaller than that, every cock is different though and shape does matter.
How about 7.5 and skinny? (fingers crossed)
Weirdly, I used to bottom out all the time when I was younger, almost every woman, had to be careful.
Had sex with 7 or 8 women since 2020, haven’t even come close. My wife is about the smallest woman I’ve ever slept with, bottomless.
Anyone can explain that?
A few things could be happening here.
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Vaginas lose elasticity as people get older. But this wouldn’t explain depth.
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You and your partners could have subtly learned better techniques for your bodies. I used to get cervical trauma way more when I starfished with spry young jackhammers.
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Nerves. Women who are used to sex know how to relax and how to get themselves in the mood.
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Size of the woman doesn’t indicate the size of the vagina. Just like dudes and dick size.
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Small sample group/cognitive bias. You haven’t slept with enough women or taken proper notes, so your anecdote might be incorrect.
As you seem keen to explain things to people:
What does ‘bottoming out’ mean, in terms of PiV sex?
Is this… head of the penis hitting a wall, the cervix?
Is this… absolutely zero seperation between basically the pelvic bones of both partners?
I am apparently too old to understand this phrase, I’ve not heard it used in this context before.
Like… I’ve been with enough women of varying body types and ages to agree with everything you’ve said here.
Some girls have smaller or larger, or tighter or looser vaginas… maybe some general correlation with just, height and pelvic width, but lots of variability, gals that do their kegels religiously are something else lol.
Also just actual sex position makes a big difference in terms of how uh, far you can get in there, how ‘filled’ a woman will tell you she feels.
Same with the uh, amount of local padding, both for the gal and the guy.
I love explaining things.
Bottoming Out is hitting the cervix. I’ve heard people use it for complete insertion of the dick, tangling pubes so to speak, but they’re wrong.
Yes, position is a factor. The vagina is oriented on an angle, if you imagine drawing a line from the opening to the base of the spine, though it is flexible and can move around quite a bit amongst all the loose, squishy stuff in there. Since the majority of the nerves are concentrated at the “front,” positions with the penis coming at you from behind can put a lot more pressure on the feely parts.
Aha perfect, thank you for the explanation!
I… would have used a crass term more like ‘kidney punching’ to indicate that, but w/e I guess?
‘Bottoming out’ is also confusing to me because this just makes me think of ‘bottoming’, either being physically beneath someone during sex, or being receptive, or submissive mentally…
…it also makes me think of, you know, bottoming out a car, high centering it… which doesn’t really make sense as a physical analogy to… basically piledriving a bit too deep.
But anyway, yeah, I’ve often been able to get much deeper, sometimes unintentionally painfully deep, ‘bottoming out’ I guess, via basically doggy or prone boning or reverse cowgirl, than with some kind of frontal/missionary derived position…
… though if the gal is limber enough to have her legs held up and bent/moved around, and you put a pillow under her tailbone, or just be standing and have her clasped around you, that can also work pretty well… as you say, all about the angles, where in particular a lady’s gspot is, how much clitoral stimulation she does (or sometimes doesn’t) need from whatever the position allows for…
But, if a lady has a rather bodacious booty… well I’m kinda on the skinnier side, and I’m not super jacked, so I’ve had a few such gals where I just actually cannot push all that cushion out of the way l, gotta find some angle / position where that is less of a factor.
I think other relevant factors would be:
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actual strength of quality of the erection, basically how hard/firm the dick actually is
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how exactly a guy is curved
I don’t have like a perione’s (sp?) level wacky tilt or bend, but i do have a slight uh, upward curve, compared to… well I guess at least most dicks i see in porn, that often tend to be basically just straight… ive uh, seen and handled a few other dicks in person, but I definitely more lean toward enjoying the XX body plan, as you seem to tend to as well.
But yeah, I think you mentioned elsewhere, or somebody did, that having a moderate bit of a curve is… kind of almost equivalent to just having more volume overall, as it uh, hits and strokes different inside the vagina, kinda makes it bend in ways that a purely straight one doesn’t, can make it just visually seem larger than it might literally be?
I dunno, would you agree with that, or no, or ‘it depends?’
My friend, I have no idea what the question is supposed to be. You’re probably referring to the comment I made on the main post here.
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Could it be angles?
I rarely bottomed out with missionary or cowgirl, but doggy almost every time.
Nah, it was always missionary when I hit bottom. Maybe something to do with my partners being older? No idea, but it’s a weird thing I noticed.
Older and/or babies
Depends on girth as well, 6 inches but thick I consider a “big” dick. 7 inches but skinny would look average.
What would you consider thick, for 6 inches of length… either by circumference or maybe top down width?
Or maybe there’s a useful distinction there:
Would horizontal or vertical width maybe be more important than the other?
It honestly doesn’t really occur to me to classify a penis I come in contact with. What size category it’s in only really crosses my mind when the subject at hand is what condoms to buy/use. Of course I can see its size, but the thought is never ‘this is big/small/medium’, just stuff like ‘huh, gotta be a bit more careful with my teeth than what I’m used to’. Might be relevant to mention that I also enjoy sex with people who don’t have a penis at all.
lol, condom sizes for guys are about as bullshit as clothing sizes for women.
Nothing is standardized, you basically just have to either look up each mfg’s size specs or try it on first, to have any idea how it actually fits.
But also… you do say that the thought that occurs to you would be something like ‘gotta be more careful about my teeth with this one’.
Presumably the preceding, maybe unconscious thought to that is ‘that one is bigger than what I’m used to’, no?
Like here, maybe another thought excercize would be (and apologies if me presuming you are a bi/pan vag8na haver is innacurate):
What size of a dick would it have to be for you to see and just go Nope!, there’s no way that isn’t going to hurt, not without a lot of lube and/or physically readying yourself for the uh, endeavor?
Oh yeah they are! Luckily a lot of them list diameter. What I meant was more like, the box has a size category listed on it, which makes me think of size as a category.
As for the teeth thing: I guess what I’m saying is that, while I might notice size, I don’t think of it in terms of category. So, no ‘this is large/medium/small’, more of a relative way of thinking of it.
As for the last bit: there’s so many different ways to have sex, I don’t think there’s any type of genitals that would make me not want to have sex with the owner of them. You can always figure something out that is enjoyable for both (or all; though I don’t have experience with that) participants.
Eh, well, I already know you don’t normally think in terms of categories that have at least estimates of actual numbers that define thresholds or categories.
You already said that this just generally doesn’t occur to you, its not part of your approach to, or experience of sex.
Which is good to know!
A lot of guys think a lot of gals are quite judgemental, and well, while sure some of them are, size queens do exist… yeah most of them really are not.
But, what I am asking is for you to try to make those definitions, those categories, to try and think that way.
Try to step into another frame of mind, a different way of thinking,… I guess not entirely unlike 'would you try this new kink?
IE, x by y size is big enough that’d I’d have to be consciously making an effort to not accidentally hurt them with my teeth during a BJ, that I may need to worried about a gag reflex, that it would just plain ole hurt to have my mouth/jaw open that wide for very long.
Or, as with my earlier attempt at defining a kind of threshold scenario… surely there is some maximum size limit that would make you say, nope, that’s not going in me because it will hurt too much, or it very easily could if they’re not very, very careful.
Even if its way beyond the size of any dick you’re reasonably likely to encounter, and into some kind of monster strapon or dildo range.
Saying that you could figure out how to enjoy a monster or micro cock in some kind of way… is dodging the question of ‘what would you define as a monster or micro cock such that you’d need to think about it differently.’
It’s great that you’re so accepting of all kinds of different types of body plans, but that’s not an answer to my question.
Like, if me, a guy, wants to get pegged, I’m gonna be able to tell my XX partner ‘please use a strap on of this size, but no bigger, I don’t think I can handle that’, or likewise for getting dicked down by another dude… or transwoman who still has their meatrod, etc.
However, if you just don’t want to try to answer these kinds of questions or think in this way, or maybe you don’t think you could actually give numbers to it with any confidence, that’s fine too, I’m not gonna non consensually demand it of you.
7 inches is a big cock in terms of length
have you noticed that the larger ones have more of an upward angle? Or is the angle seem about the same as every what is considered a normal size cock?
To me in lenght it’s from 6.7 but tbh average (around 5.5) and thick would work just better. Question being also how vaginas are shaped : under 5.5 I wouldn’t even feel anything because it wouldn’t hit the right spots
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