• Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    I see lots of people on the left type “punch a Nazi” online but then never learn to throw a punch or lift any weights and shit on self defense culture like martial artists or even gun ownership. Punching people is not something you just do. Especially to people with Nazi mentality who probably gone their whole lives feeling anti social and waiting for a leftist to engage them.

    Not saying this to discourage but to say go learn to punch Nazis and embrace being a fucking Nazi punching bear of a person

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      10 months ago

      I’ve only not punched a Nazi because I don’t live in America and they’re usually around the very southern part of the country while I live in the northeast. Plus, being a Nazi here is illegal.

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        10 months ago

        Right the people saying they’ll punch a Nazi are also people who have run to Lemmy as their sole social media because they don’t enjoy being in conflict all the time with other people who disagree with them.

        The people that go nazi I have often are usually people who thrive in conflict. It’s like a weird attention seeking thrill thing.

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      10 months ago

      The left was/is stupid to let the right dominate the firearms and martial arts space. I have been doing martial arts for more than a decade, and have shot a few hundred rounds. I even own some weapons that I can legally (living in EU). Next year I’m going to a 3 days combined firearms training with an also leftist friend. There is no reason we can’t or shouldn’t do these kind of things

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          10 months ago

          Part of me is so done with humanity I feel like a lot of these kids deserve the consequence of being self-absorbed and undisciplined.

          That’s understandable, considering the amount of propaganda that has always been generated about the kids these days. The best propaganda has a grain of truth in it, and preys on the fear that you’re being taken advantage of, that your efforts are for naught.

          There will always be ignorant people, there will always be lazy freeloaders, there will always be room for improvement. If you feel this means some people do not deserve solidarity, you cannot expect others to stand with you, and this is how the left crumbles.

          If the internet is making you lose faith in humanity, you should get off the internet.

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      10 months ago

      okay, lesson here: you see those two big knuckles? those are your punching knuckles. you punch with those. you punch with the other two you’re gonna break your hand. line those up with the big bone, you got a good fist. now at least you can throw a punch without completely breaking yourself.

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      10 months ago

      I see lots of people on the left type “punch a Nazi” online

      “punch a Nazi” reads better than a more realistic “throw a feeble, limp-wristed nudge that hardly registers at a nazi that leads them to innocently ask whether you need their attention for something”

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    10 months ago

    Even though I punched Nazis myself back in the nineties, I think that might not be the best way to go.

    Show unconditional love, until every last idiot sees, who’s the asshole.

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    10 months ago

    I think the following is a better idea:

    Be better than them, help people negatively affected by them, vote, try to be less cynical and more rational, instead of continuing the cycle of hatred. It is better for your own mental health and the lives of others.

    I am just as susceptible to anger as anyone else and by no means above it, just to make that clear.

    I know people don’t want to hear this, because humans are wired to be extremely responsive to hate (just look at twitter) and I don’t mean to be preachy, but this would be a much greater net positive for humanity.

    Edit: Looking at the replies makes me think we’re fucked.

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        10 months ago

        Seeing most people thinking assault is the better option, I am not surprised. Even if you’d punch a nazi, do you think he’d go “oh shit, I get it now, sorry”? Usually both sides just radicalize more.

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          10 months ago

          Well the point is to make it less of a popular thing to be a Nazi, and to make them be scared of being Nazis, at least publicly. The less Nazis are accepted the less people will find themselves validated in their beliefs

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            10 months ago

            Ok, let me ask you a question then and let you come to your own conclusion. I will not reply after that.

            How do you think extremists react, when they feel threatened?

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      10 months ago

      Yes. Do all that. Except gor the voting that’s the most important things.

      And also punch a nazi. Because if you don’t, they just wreck it all.

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      10 months ago

      Ah yes, I’m sure the fascists will get their act together once they see us, respectable people holding hands and being good litte humans. That has always historically worked.

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      10 months ago

      nebulaone, did we see the saw the same meme?

      We are already better than them:

      • we care for nature
      • we intersect and build solidarity
      • we feed everyone

      And we also end oppression.

      Nazis were breed into:

      • destruction of nature
      • isolation & exclusion
      • feeding only the strong

      And continue to traffick at gun point.

      What more do you want narcissistic sociopaths to do? Become liberals‽