• leftzero@lemmynsfw.com
    133·
    9 hours ago

    Does the “gurantee” include prions…? 🤨

    (If you can guarantee no prions — don’t really care about the no one harmed bit, as long as I don’t know them or they’re on my shitlist —, and it’s cooked in some way I enjoy — no fancy gourmet spherified vapour shit, thanks — then yeah, definitely, I’m no vegan or anywhere close, but I’d rather eat human than some other animal who can’t consent or have done anything to deserve being murdered and eaten.)

    • JayDee@lemmy.world
      6·
      9 hours ago

      Said this on another comment: eating human meat does not increase your chance of prions. If you eat another human with prions disease, then you get it. But if you don’t eat prion-infected meat, you don’t get prions.

      We eat deer, which also get prions. We also eat cow, which also get prions (mad cow disease, which also infects humans). We avoid getting prions with regulation of those markets. We could do exactly the same in this scenario.

      • leftzero@lemmynsfw.com
        12·
        2 hours ago

        eating human meat does not increase your chance of prions

        Tell that to victims of kuru.

        We eat deer

        No, I most definitely don’t.

        which also get prions

        I don’t think “get” is the right word. We gave them prions when we put them together with sheep with scrapie to see if it could be transmitted to deer. Which it could. And by “we” I mean humans, but specifically the USA, because of course it was the USA. Probably trying to make biological weapons. Well, congratulations, I guess, fantastic success there.

        We avoid getting prions with regulation of those markets

        No we don’t. Capitalism ensures that we get regular outbreaks of human transmitted mad cow disease (which at some point would start spreading from human to human and kill us all, if CWD didn’t get us first), and the deer stuff is completely unregulated (and will become even worse with that raving orange lunatic in the white house).

        It’s a matter of time (probably less than five years, given the collapsing state of the USA) before it starts spreading to humans and becomes an unstoppable pandemic that’ll kill us all.

        The only reasonable course of action would be to nuke all affect areas until every square centimeter of the ground turns to glass, but we aren’t going to do that, because we care more about short term profit and optics than about the inevitable extinction of the human race.

        • JayDee@lemmy.world
          1·
          5 minutes ago

          Did you read anything about kuru beforehand? It’s contracted by ritual eating in general rites. They also have no means of diagnosing prion infection in a corpse, which is why people would eat brain tissue with prions. It didn’t spontaneously form in those victims, it was in the corpse. Overall, it could be avoided by just not eating infected meat, hence why Papua New Guinea did not collapse from kuru - it was rare to get it.

          Chronic wasting disease was first observed in deer in the 1960s, and there is nothing actually confirming it’s exact origin. it was first noted in deer herds being researched in Colorado, and as far as I am reading, it did not jump from sheep to deer.

          We do actually regulate mad cow disease, going as far as culling entire herds of livestock and disposing of the meat. Outbreaks happen, yes, but we are keeping that spread down. This is also in meat that we sell at an insane scale, one which would not be replicatable with human meat without slavery.

          With human donated meat, it’s very unlikely you would get prions. Again, you are way more likely to get it from cow meat and deer meat.

    • JayDee@lemmy.world
      14·
      9 hours ago

      Ultra-rare, and not spontaneously caused by eating human flesh. You’re more likely to get mad cow disease (also prions) from eating beef.

      • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
        6·
        9 hours ago

        as far as i understand it they can technically just show up, without you having to eat anything. it’s one of those “could kill you from nowhere” things, like false vacuum decay.

        but eating human meat, especially brain, will significantly increase the risk, yes

      • JayDee@lemmy.world
        3·
        9 hours ago

        They spread everywhere, and cause progressively worse neurological issues as they spread through the brain.

  • palordrolap@fedia.io
    46·
    13 hours ago

    Human flesh is said to smell and taste very similar to pork. At least one culture that partook in cannibalism called human meat “long pig” probably because of that. I’m also fairly sure I’ve heard stories of fire and rescue workers reporting delicious pork-roast smells that turned out absolutely horrifying and put them off pork for a very long time.

    It may also be one of the reasons that certain religious texts and cultures forbid the eating of pork. It’s probably more to do with how pork spoils quickly in the climates where those religions originated, as well as the risk of roundworms if it isn’t cooked properly, but it does also stop the butcher from selling you a pork steak that isn’t actually pork, so that’s a bonus.

    • asqapro@reddthat.com
      4·
      7 hours ago

      Origin of “long pig”, copied from this Reddit comment:

      I think you might be right. In A St. Johnston’s Camping among Cannibals (which the OED quotes in its etymology of the term), he describes how:

      The expression “long pig” is not a joke, nor a phrase invented by Europeans, but one frequently used by the Fijians, who looked upon a corpse as ordinary butcher’s meat, and call a human body puaka balava, " long pig," in contradistinction to puaka dina, or " real pig."

      Which makes it sound like they were just distinguishing between the length of pigs and people.

    • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
      17·
      12 hours ago

      I was in the basement working on a electronic project sitting in the floor My parents house. Couldn’t find my soldering iron holder so I just had a somewhat deep bowl and set it in upside down

      Something surprising was on TV and I looked up, subconsciously I reach down to pick up the soldering iron which was upside down of its normal orientation.

      I heard a sizzle. It took a good half second for me to realize it was me.

      The lead on the iron was sweet when I touched the burned finger in my mouth, the skin had a decidedly porky flavor to it. Not going to lie it was kind of barbecuey…*

      Edit: dictation did me dirty

      • Cypher@lemmy.world
        6·
        8 hours ago

        I was distracted by some other students and grabbed a soldering iron in a metal workshop class when I was young.

        The results were predictably uncomfortable and now when Im soldering it is impossible to distract me.

        It’s the kind of lesson you don’t ever forget.

    • Sceptiksky@leminal.space
      3·
      12 hours ago

      but it does also stop the butcher from selling you a pork steak that isn’t actually pork, so that’s a bonus.

      or maybe it’s just a translation error haha

  • merc@sh.itjust.works
    256·
    11 hours ago

    Hey extrovert, how about you shut up? Silence is nice. We don’t constantly need to hear you talking.

    • skygirl@lemmy.world
      21·
      9 hours ago

      Nah, I love my extroverts. They do what I repeatedly fail to do, and help pull me into the conversation and actually get some social interaction rather than sulking quietly in a corner.

      Extroverts that know how to pull introverts into social interaction are the best and I have often looked up to them.

    • dukk@programming.dev
      5·
      9 hours ago

      ok but isn’t telling an extrovert to talk less the same as telling an introvert to talk more??

      like…

      • merc@sh.itjust.works
        44·
        9 hours ago

        Yes, and do you know how often introverts are told to talk more? Do you know how rarely extroverts are told to shut up?

        It might be rude to tell an individual extrovert to shut up. But, it definitely isn’t rude to remind extroverts as a whole that they don’t need to fill every silence with babbling, and to tell them that it certainly isn’t a duty of theirs that everyone is thankful that they do.

    • varyingExpertise@feddit.orgEnglish
      71·
      11 hours ago

      You will be either in my maelstrom of social interaction or you can leave, I’m partially sorry but I’m nowhere near the steering wheel as soon as I’m in a group of people.

    • metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub
      122·
      12 hours ago

      Spelling mistakes getting called out increases engagement. I’m not saying it was done on purpose in this instance, but in general it does make sense that you’ll see more posts with spelling mistakes because they’ll rise to the top. The only winning move is not to play.

        • metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub
          5·
          11 hours ago

          Oh definitely, it’s not like Lemmy is overflowing with it and I can’t imagine the author is the one posting here. I’m just saying that if you’re sorting by hot or active you increase the odds of seeing content with these spelling mistakes or silly errors by calling it out, so instead of the presumed effect the corrector wanted, i.e. either getting the author to change it, the poster not bother, or having it seen fewer people, it generally has the opposite effect.

  • rumschlumpel@feddit.org
    3·
    12 hours ago

    How do you guarantee that? If it’s just a matter of asking consent, that’s probably illegal. If the person died from other causes (illness, accidents, old age etc.), I’d question whether it’s safe (illness) or palatable (old age) to eat that meat.

    • JayDee@lemmy.world
      4·
      9 hours ago

      Just sign up to be a meat donor like you sign up to be an organ donor. if you were healthy enough to have your organs harvested at death, you were healthy enough to eat (probably idk).

      • rumschlumpel@feddit.org
        3·
        12 hours ago

        I have a hard time believing that the foot was entirely unaffected by the injury … it’s whatever if it’s your own limb, but I wouldn’t eat someone else’s limb that was amputated due to injury.

        • AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works
          2·
          8 hours ago

          He did state that the limb was healthy, and he could have kept it, but it wasn’t structurally sound enough to take his weight. Hence there wouldn’t have been gangrene or anything like that.

        • TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz
          2·
          10 hours ago

          Gangrene’s kinda nasty, I agree. Come to think of it, it would be like eating severely spoiled meat. There’s a reason doctors cut that stuff out of you.

          • davidgro@lemmy.world
            1·
            8 hours ago

            It was an elective amputation because he couldn’t walk on it, I didn’t see any mention of gangrene or anything else infectious.

            It was not a case where it was removed for threatening his life like gangrene would have been.

    • mogoh@lemmy.ml
      2·
      11 hours ago

      It would probably be enough fitting: If you work in a mortuary, an you have cases of young people that consented to donate their dead body to whatever. I mean they are dead anyway. And they get cremated. So know harm in taking the calf.