Sam Raimi is staying in the MCU as he’s all but closed a dealdirect ‘Doctor Strange 3’ (via The InSneider).
In July, Raimi signed on to direct the horror thriller “Send Help.” It remains unclear whether Raimi will direct that movie first, or ‘Doctor Strange 3.’Here’s hoping he chooses the horror-thriller.
I also wish Raimi more luck in directing this latest ‘Doctor Strange’ movie than the last one. “Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness,” although it grossed $955M worldwide, was not that well received critically or by fans and had a pre-production filled with drama.
Raimi only came on board ‘Multiverse of Madness’ after original director Scott Derrickson parted ways with Marvel due to “creative differences.” The script had many rewrites up to that point — an actor in the film claimed it had been rewritten 33 times.
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The argument is for “yes people watch them.” 200 million is a lot of people watching them, regardless of what the movie cost to make.
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Okay, look, I didn’t think I was going to have to defend this position so hard, but here I am. I don’t know movie theatre prices in USD, so I converted US$200 million into my currency and divided it by a very conservatively expensive ticket price and got over 9 million people.
I cannot stress enough I am not trying to make an argument for or against its success. But 9 million people is a lot more than 0 people.
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Okay, of domestic boxoffice records in 2023, two of those were in the top ten. Seem pretty popular to me.
(edited to add: I didn’t say I wasn’t defending their popularity, I said I wasn’t defending their [financial] success)
Popularity is financial success.
These aren’t indie arthouse flicks, they’re enormous investment vehicles for the studios, and they’re failing.
It doesn’t matter if a film grossed a billion dollars, if it cost 2 billion to make. That’s a flop, a failure.
They’re failing because they aren’t popular anymore, not enough people care about them to sustain the studios in the medium or long term.
When I said no one was watching them, you conveniently found that to be a very literal argument. When clearly in this context “no one’s watching them anymore”, refers to their box office receipts relative to their cost to produce.
So, to answer my own question in the appropriate context, no, no one’s watching them anymore. But to answer in terms you’ll understand, the audience has shrunk so much that they’re no longer consistent profitable investments. Which is why they’ve scrapped so many projects, including multiple shows and movies that had already began production.
I disagree wholeheartedly with you that financial success is a direct measure of popularity, but I think we’ll just be talking past each other on that. If you were referring to their financial success, I think that’s what you should have said to make your point, as that’s not at all what I took from your original comment. I’m very done with this though, because I really don’t care anymore. Cheers.
That was a lot of effort to prove 9 million is more than 0. But this is the world now I guess.