• solarvector@lemmy.zip
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    1 year ago

    Wtf is a “vulgar sense of entitlement”? And how can that possibly apply to a government agency? This is just word salad from the conservative talking points generator.

  • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The CIA’s ability to SUCCESSFULLY coop a government has been greatly exaggerated by… the CIA. Seriously, think of how many times they failed at killing Castro.

    • TargaryenTKE@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      They definitely deserve flak for TRYING to overthrow sovereign governments, but you’re right in that the vast majority of their attempts failed spectacularly

    • Zagorath@aussie.zone
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      1 year ago
      • Syria, 1949
      • Egypt 1952 (possibly—at the very least prior knowledge of the coup)
      • 1952 Iran
      • 1954 Guatemala
      • 1960 Laos
      • 1961 Dominic Republic
      • 1965 Indonesia
      • 1973 Chile
      • 1975 Australia (this one’s the most controversial on the list because of the US’s long friendly relationship with the country. If the CIA was involved, it was by encouraging the abuse of existing constitutional powers rather than a direct military coup as in most examples.)

      That’s just a list of successful coups I could find quickly on Wikipedia that were clearly backed by the CIA during the Cold War. There were other failed attempts, including multiple 1950s in Syria and Indonesia and, yes, Cuba. And other successful coups where the US was definitely involved but it’s not clear to me from a cursory look that it was via the CIA specifically, like 1971 Bolivia and 1976 Argentina. And there have obviously been CIA actions in the time since.

      I think the key fact is that in almost no cases did the CIA singlehandedly do a coup. They supported people on the ground who already wanted to do a coup to make their attempted coup more likely to succeed, and to ensure that they’d be friendly to the US afterwards if they did succeed.

  • lurch (he/him)@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    they like to twist good things around and make them sound bad. every normal person sees right through it.

    i remember when snowflake meant unique and beautiful.