Are they for you? Why or why not?

    • MisshapenDeviate@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      8 months ago

      The organization and typical submission requirements are what really put them over public trackers for me.

      Public tracker: It’s this big and this many files. Figure it out.*
      Private tracker: All the metadata

      * Experience may vary. Post is overly dramatic for comedic effect

    • JoeKrogan@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      If you are forced to disable your vpn there is more risk. I’m not sure if some permit a vpn but I wouldn’t be trusting any of them without one.

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        8 months ago

        Even with VPN, ultimately you’re still storing everything at your house. Seedbox, preferably in the Netherlands is the way to go.

      • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        8 months ago

        Usually they want only your IP while signing up to be able to see if they had already banned you and you try to evade it.
        Most times there was the rule that once signed up, you can turn it back on for both torrenting and browsing.

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        8 months ago

        I use a VPN and it’s on a kill switch, so if it gets disconnected for whatever reason, the machine can’t reach the internet at all.

        I can’t imagine why a private tracker would disallow you from using a VPN

        • PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          There used to be issues with tracking ratios when using a VPN. And since many private trackers require users to maintain a specific ratio, it meant that many private trackers effectively banned VPNs. Because if you were using a VPN, you’d be stuck at a 0.00 ratio and quickly get banned.

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            8 months ago

            I use a VPN and maintain a ratio. They must use something other than IP address as a unique identifier.

        • state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de
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          8 months ago

          MAM used to be quite anti-VPN but I haven’t used it in years, so no idea what their take is now. They tracked quotas and stuff through your IP and required you to be online on IRC. Great content and community, but a lot of hoops to jump through.

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    8 months ago

    I’ve only been part of one private tracker, and I got kicked from them after not logging in for a month despite meeting ratios. haven’t bothered since then

  • Ashy@lemmy.wtf
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    8 months ago

    I tried signing up for a few but they want me to disable my VPN … nope.

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      8 months ago

      I think I’m on a tracker with that rule too but I just ignore it. Not like they can tell.

      • Nollij@sopuli.xyz
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        8 months ago

        Unless you’re on a self-hosted VPN (defeating the whole purpose), it’s not especially hard to identify VPN connections. All of the common ones are known, and many use IP ranges and reverse lookups that clearly identify the VPN/seedbox provider.

        It’s a bit harder when you are connected to one that resolves to a residential-looking hostname. But again, unless it’s truly unique (defeating the purpose), simply sorting users by IP will reveal almost all of them.

        Some trackers used to do this to weed out people with multiple accounts. Some of the big ones still actively detect and block (or punish) anyone connecting to their website with a VPN (torrent traffic is still generally allowed, though)

  • jabathekek@sopuli.xyz
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    8 months ago

    I can find most everything I want/need on public trackers, so I’ve never felt the need to jump through their hoops; however easy that would be.

    • i_love_FFT@lemmy.ml
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      8 months ago

      If i wanted to jump through complicated hoops, I’d try paid streaming services!

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    8 months ago

    Great as long as it’s easy to maintain ratio. And by “easy” I mean basically not having to do anything that can’t be automated. I also don’t care enough about the harder-to-get-in trackers that I would spend a lot of time sending in screenshots of profiles of other trackers I’m on or whatever. I’m not trying to get internet points for being on the very “coolest” private trackers.

    The good thing is that decent private trackers have a well maintained catalog and most content usually has at least one or two seeders even months/years after the torrent was created, and these seeders often have a ton of bandwidth.

    In contrast, public trackers often falsely advertise the amount of peers in the swarm (so a torrent that’s supposedly alive is often dead). I’d say I’m grabbing about 80/20 from private/public trackers, and I seed each torrent for around 30 days. Public torrents are often so starved for somewhat decent seeders that I regularly have a ratio of 20+ after the 30 days I’m seeding for. And that’s without a seedbox, just a normal Internet connection.

    In the end, both are fine. When you setup your *arr tools correctly, they usually choose a decent release automatically, whether from private or public trackers.

  • Telodzrum@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    They’re basically the RC Cola of Usenet. Instead of messing around with torrents and private trackers, just move on to the grownup option.

  • Tronrocks@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    8 months ago

    I’ve been using private trackers since demonoid. Maybe I’m just a different generation, but I enjoy sharing stuff from my local library on private trackers. Torrents rarely fully die on private trackers. People will generally reseed if they have the ability. I can quality shop, and get things that are generally harder to find/request things that I can’t find anywhere.

  • crossover@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    They’re extremely good for higher quality content such as 4K REMUX files. I have access to a private tracker that I use regularly. I only search public trackers if what I want isn’t available in the private one…which is rare.

    To me it’s not about price or openness or anything. Piracy is a service issue. Private trackers have better service than public trackers. Better curated content, better seeders, and fewer (if any) shit quality re-encodes by people who don’t know what they’re doing.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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    8 months ago

    I’ve never liked them outside of the niches the private trackers I had access to were about.

    I’ve had one that sucked for anything other than music (and even the music was annoying because the uploaders had boners for FLAC and this was back when file size still mattered and FLACs are fucking huge and don’t sound different enough to warrant the file size), one that only hosted textbooks for college courses, and another that was strictly niche as fuck films that nobody has ever even really heard of.

    It’s good to filter out bad actors uploading viruses, but it also limits how much stuff is there period.