It seems like just recently, everything broke. Posts from some other instances (Lemmy 0.19 or kbin) aren’t showing up here reliably anymore, and then sometimes posts from a few days ago will suddenly show up. kbin.social has a banner talking about unusual “problems” without going into detail.

Does anyone know what’s going on or why? I’ve heard that Lemmy 0.19 has a problem where its outbound federation queue will sometimes die until it’s restarted manually, but that doesn’t seem like it should affect a lemmy.world <-> kbin interaction. Is it just Lemmy 0.19, or just lemmy.world, or are there multiple issues, or what gives?

  • gregorum@lemm.eeEnglish
    20·
    11 months ago

    lemm.ee took a while to upgrade from 0.19 to 0.191 and then had some serious performance degradation before undergoing some backend upgrade which finally completed a few hours ago. This should finally clear up the lag and backlog between lemm.ee and other instances, particularly lemmy.world, with which it had a lot of lag issues.

  • sodalite@slrpnk.netEnglish
    14·
    11 months ago

    I believe kbin is updating the API, working on bug fixes and improvements and such, so the site is spotty right now. It said this would be happening for a few days, but that was a few days ago…

    • mo_ztt ✅@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      7·
      11 months ago

      Interesting, thank you… so maybe it’s just a combination of 0.19 breakage and kbin.social breakage coming unfortunately at the same time.

      • DarkThoughts@fedia.io
        21·
        11 months ago

        Everything seems kinda fucked at the moment. Here’s the German community on kbin, fedia.io (mbin) and its original Lemmy instance:

        https://kbin.social/m/dach@feddit.de https://fedia.io/m/dach@feddit.de https://feddit.de/c/dach

        kbin.social really struggled with its issues affecting performance a lot which ernest seems to got a hold of by now. This didn’t happen on fedia.io (mbin) but the federation issues seem to persist with being almost 2 weeks behind now. Something is really off but it also seemed to all have kicked off around the same time? Kinda feels like Lemmy pushed something that affected both platforms differently. Either way, kinda makes the Fediverse somewhat unusable and pointless if stuff like this constantly happens.

        • mo_ztt ✅@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
          3·
          11 months ago

          Oh, just to add on to my previous comment to address the specifics: My guess is that feddit.de’s outbound federation is not running because of this bug in Lemmy 0.19. It will probably stay that way until the queue is manually unborked somehow, and even then, feddit.de will probably not be able to federate real reliably in general until the fix is released and they upgrade. Without knowing too much about it beyond some guesswork that’s my prediction.

          Like I said in my other comment, I sort of prefer it that way. Call it the fediverse’s version of the “good fast cheap, pick 2” decision. You can have one only of the following options:

          • You’re the product people are making money off
          • It costs you money
          • It doesn’t work perfectly all the time

          I’m happiest with #3 personally.

  • Microw@lemm.eeEnglish
    81·
    11 months ago

    Kbin has separate problems because it is a different software. Cant speak about that as I dont know what their problems exactly are.

    As for Lemmy, if posts show up after days it’s probably because 0.19 is more resource-hungry than 0.18 which causes some servers/instances to lag behind in outgoing federation.

    • mo_ztt ✅@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      12·
      11 months ago

      0.19 has functional problems beyond simple resource consumption. It is fine, this is the nature of bleeding-edge software, just curious if anyone knew what was going on or if there were additional problems affecting the system beyond that one that I’m aware of.

      I’m also aware that kbin is different software from Lemmy. Just curious if anyone happened to know what was up with them, or whether the problems were in some way related (e.g. failures to federate out from Lemmy 0.19 instances to kbin leading to some queue filling up so that kbin can’t get its usual work done and enters unusual failure states), and this seemed like a decent place to ask since some people on kbin obviously read this community.

  • TimLovesTech (AuDHD)(he/him)@badatbeing.socialEnglish
    51·
    11 months ago

    Granted my instance is tiny, but have had zero noticeable issues with 0.19.1 since updating weeks ago. It had some increase in CPU on deployment due to DB and Pictrs also doing DB upgrades (or upgrade prep - depending if you stayed on 4.7 or went to 5), but has been running fine since.

  • The Cooking Senpai@lemme.discus.shEnglish
    2·
    11 months ago

    Posted with the wrong account below sorry lol I was saying that, without pointing fingers as i think Lemmy is a w e s o m e, this is a major drawback for new users that looks interoperability.