• jali67@lemmy.zip
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      I like to think there are leftists who understand US gun regulations are a joke but that doesn’t mean gun ban like conservatives committing a logical fallacy on the topic say.

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      Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered. Any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary.

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        What if we’re not American have never had guns in the first place?

        Why is every discussion of left vs right politics always couched as if only the United States has politics and the rest of the world essentially doesn’t exist in any real meaningful sense?

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        You sound like a conservative where any acknowledging of US gun regulations being a joke gets met with some claim that we’re advocating to ban guns.

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        That’s a fair point. Although there is a reason there is an issue with people shooting each other in the US and there isn’t really anywhere else.

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        I’m a leftist who doesn’t much care for guns but I’ll use one if I fucking have to.

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          Thanks for giving a straight forward response without quoting a footnote from some random asshole’s third lost manuscript.

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        There are reformist and pacifist leftists too (like democratic socialists, syndicalists, anarcho-pacifists), not that I agree with any of them completely.

        Leftism at its simplest definition is just opposing social hierarchy (which right wing ideologies like capitalism, fascism, and monarchism promote) in favor of socialism (which can also include communism, anarchism, and syndicalism).

        It’s because leftism is so broad with differing methods that many leftists hate each other. If you narrow down the definition of leftist to only your own political beliefs, then there wouldn’t be much leftists to hate.

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        You don’t need guns to make a revolution. In fact, guns make the worst type of revolution, one that leads to civil war. So if your type of leftism cares about wellbeing of your fellow humans, you would like to avoid a civil war by all means.
        A person having a rifle was a threat to power, when power also meant people with rifles, not anymore. The power will thrive in a civil war scenario

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          Everyone knows the best revolutions are ones where the powers that be are simply convinced to give up their power by facts and logic, like what happened with women’s suffrage, or civil rights, or gay rights. No guns or violence involved with those!

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            Every fucking time I for some reason think I can have a serious conversation here, someone hits me with shit like that. Why do I even bother.

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            Said a man dreaming of shooting your way into power. I’m actually glad you never go beyound your stupid little larp.