Huh. All that work, just for little ol’ me? Gosh, I’m humbled. I didn’t even know that was going on.

I do try to limit thorn to my piefed account. Sometimes habit tricks me to using it on Midwest.Social, but that’s entirely accidental.

I use a convenience package on top of stow (yas-bdsm), but yeah: stow is foundational.

Yeah. SimpleX has a similar problem, because it’s basically creating a bunch of 1:1 connections between everyone to preserve anonymity - IIRC (I freely admit I could be misremembering this). As I understood, it’s a decent limit, though - more than the 7-12 friend/family group you’d reasonably trust in a chat group.

I did not consider this a blocker - who’s using encrypted chat for large groups? Large group chats are fundamentally insecure; is the use case about anonymity, not encryption?

IME, beyond the install, it’s all distro- and desktop-specific.

• How to find and install apps varies from distro to distro. IIRC, the Mint menu item is something obvious, like “Install software”, but on Arch (you’d have to hate your newbie to throw them into Arch), it requires a chicken/egg finding and installing a graphical installer. If you know the distro, this would be good information - or if you’re helping with the install, create a desktop launcher.
• Showing them where settings are. Surprising to me, this has been super-not-obvious to my newbs. Even though the KDE Settings app is called “settings”, I think Windows and Mac folks are used to looking for settings in a specific place, rather than an app name - and in Windows, there’s can be several ways to get up different settings, like changing display stuff is always in a weird place. Again, maybe a desktop or panel shortcut would help.
• One of my newbs used Mint for two years without opening a shell, so I don’t think that’s an issue. He even found and installed a piece of software he wanted, but I can’t remember if I originally showed him how to the first time. But that’s Mint. He did, however, need help setting up a printer, but that’s because he couldn’t find the settings program; he came from Windows originally.
• Edge cases, like printers and other peripherals, can be hard, and I don’t think any amount of extra documentation is going to help, because almost every difficulty is practically unique. There’s a ton of online help for stuff like that already. And then, if they want to, eg, attach a game controller… well, that’s very specific and again varies by controller. I don’t think you can cover all of these edge cases.
• Games can be hard only because of the indirection of having to install some other software, like Proton or Steam, creating an account, knowing how to check for compatability - there’s a lot of moving parts. It’s not just: go to the game’s web site, buy, download, and install something and run it, like I imagine it is on Windows. So maybe that would be useful - or - again - pre-installing one of the game stores and (surprise) making a shortcut would eliminate that.
• Network connections. Again, I always find figuring out how to get to network configuration in Windows to be hard, and bizarrely having multiple ways of accomplishing the same task, so I’d guess going the other direction would be confusing. Having a note about how to get to the configuration would be handy.

As I think about it, I realize that configuration under KDE of way more encapsulated and clear than on Windows, and people having learned the byzantine and myriad ways of Windows, KDE’s relative simplicity is confusing. Windows people look for configurations in places they’ve learned to look, which aren’t always where they are under KDE (I can’t speak much about Gnome - I don’t use it or set people up with it). MacOS isn’t as bad, having a similar configure-everything-through-a-single-settings-program approach.

Anyway, that’s my experience.

This was many years ago, but since I was learning on the fly and asking Germans for translations of English words and was trying to learn words, I’d gotten in the habit of simplifying my requests. So instead of asking how to say “all of” I asked for “whole”. I also may have phrased it differently where “whole” made more sense - this was 20+ years ago, and I don’t remember exactly what was said.

I would still like to understand why Jami is never mentioned in these posts. I’m not aware of any technical or security objections, and the less I hear about Jami, the more concerned I become about using it.

I was living in Germany and was learning Germman on the fly and was with my sister and her girl friends at Octoberfest, and I wanted to ask one what she did with her whole time, so I asked what the word for “whole” was. I ended up asking her what she “did with her hole time.”

I was living in Germany and was learning Germman on the fly and was with my sister and her girl friends at Octoberfest, and I wanted to ask one what she did with her whole time, so I asked what the word for “whole” was. I ended up asking her what she “did with her hole time.”

Huh. tar tf and unzip -l. I’m not sure I’d even bother to write a shell function to combine them, much less install software.

Zips just exploding to files is so common, if you just mkdir unzpd ; unzip -d unzpd file.zip it’s going to be right nearly all of the time. Same with tarballs always containing a directory; it’s just so common it’s barely worth checking.

You write the tools you need, don’t get me wrong. This seems like, at most, a 10-line bash function, and even that seems excessive.

function pear() {
case $1 in
  *.zip)
    unzip -l "$1"
    ;;
  *.tar.*)
    tar tf "$1"
    ;;
esac
}

No, not on porpoise.

I have no idea! It seems to be the human material. Have you ever heard of a solution? I can be aware of it and resist it, but what I hate is that instinctive, negative impulse, and I don’t think wishing it away is going to help.

Not that kind of “use!”

That’s… a big gap. I think I’d just be confused all the time if I had to switch between them.

I’m lucky. I live in a place where stonecrop is native, and it grows like a weed. Except it doesn’t spread (quickly), and I love the look.

We had some landscaping done and they moved some stonecrop and forgot to move one back. it wasn’t even planted; it just grew right there where they’d left it!

Great plants.

Also, biological monsters would overheat very fast.

That’s why they tend to breath fire n stuff.

Old Godzilla movies got it right. He did look like he was walking on the moon. Not bouncing, but he probably had atrophied muscles from being in the water all the time.

Poor guy. Overheated and tired, no wonder he was grumpy!

That’s brilliant. The thumbnail spoils it… at least, it shows me the punchline.

I don’t know why; it just popped into my head. Maybe because the float would just make snacking easier for the sharks?

Edit: because my home server insists on rewriting all image URLs to proxy requests through that server, and it often breaks things. I gotta re-home.

https://files.catbox.moe/6awpqm.gif

Ok, so preface: this isn’t about you. Your comment just coalesced something I’ve been ruminating about recently.

I wish we, as humans, didn’t have this knee-jerk tenancy to make everything a zero-sum competition. Vi vs EMACS. x86 vs ARM. Windows vs Mac vs Linux vs FreeBSD. C vs Go vs Rust vs Clojure vs JavaScript. Arch vs the world.

It really is a zero-sum game, with real consequences. If your favorite distro becomes unpopular enough, it might die, and then you have to give up something you love. Windows winning the OS market for decades meant countless people had to suffer using Windows because the company they worked for mandated it. If I crusade for V(lang) enough, it might become popular enough for jobs to open for it.

The downside is that we’re constantly fighting against diversity, and that’s bad.

I suffer from this as much as anyone, and I hate that my first impulse is to either tear down “the opposition”, which at some point is nearly everyone, or schadenfreude.

“It is not enough that I succeed, but that others should fail.” It can’t be healthy.

I miss the days when every package came with a man page.

Every respectable package; don’t come at me, pendants.

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