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  • If you werent thinking that, i think youve missed the point of the post and national security concerns. Its not always wilking. Chinese stidents overseas are tasked with spying on host countriea and do so out of fear ofntheir families. Literal spies from russia had infiltrated the NRA (and the presidency of course). Israelis spies travel under irish passports.

    Of course, not all foreign nationals are spies, but when countries are in conflict, it creates natural suspicion. Some is justified, some is not. How to tell the difference is the question.






  • Isnt that the whole area of AI though. Its not based on fundamentals. Its not based on proven productivity gains. Sure, anecdotally, some engineera are increasing their output dramatically. But also many people are feeling prodictice while producing slop.

    AI has the potential to reduce so many monotonous tasks and streamline processes that currently need a human.

    Companies and managers are rushing in based on that potential, trying tonfigure out how to meet it as its new. However, the big driver seems to be a fear of missing out. Thats a bubble.

    The facr that antropic seems to have overtaken openai and google has overtaken them in the consumer space says that maybe nobody will be ledt that far behind, if they just wait for a use case.



  • Which is anothwr way of sayong structural change is needed. South Korea floated the idea of a tax on ai companies. They walked it back after the stock market dipped. The economist, a (economically) liberal paper, is even suggesting higher tax for profits above a certain threshold, and also taxing labour less and capital more. The opposite of their thinking in general.

    Yes, the concept of AI changes things and changes the value or work and prosuctivity. Digital technogyndid this already. Digital business can scale in ways traditional ones cant.

    Ai has the capacity to upend how the world operates. The question is how we allow the spoils to go. AI companies are hoping they get the lions share. Open models and structural changws tontaxarion and trade and employment law can ensure the apoils dont go that way.

    I also see an ai future where the consuner can no longer be ripped off, as consumers dont need to be stuck on amazon or google. Where if they want to buy a gidger, that the ai will search and find the best deals for them, including postage taxes etc. Similar for more conokex purchases, like power, mobile phones, insurance etc.

    Businesses hooe that ai can recommend products for advertising dollars. They forget that people are susceptible to advertising and habit in a way that a predection model is not.

    My feeling is thatbit either gets managed well and we all benefit, or it doesnt and things go to shit, which leads to revolution in some way, viokent or otherwise. Which means we win. So we win either way.


  • I dont disagree, but youre missing the point. There arent much carriage driver jobs since the arrival of the automobile. There are a lot more jobs related to driving, though. Thats the point. Technology always makes jobs obsolete but creates more to replace.

    What is the problem with ai is multiple. Environmental is a huge concern. The poor perfirmance in many areas is another. The job loses are awful fornthose that lose their jobs and short term are bad for society. Long term, society SHOULD benefit from AI. However, the tech workd is doing everything they can to make sure the spoils dont go to society, but directly to them. Ita why they are investing so much. They want to be first, directing the direction and process and monetisation.

    What we need to do as society, is ensire that the spoils go society. That the producrivity imorovemebts lead to better lives, not just bigger profits for the few. Thats wjy chinese open models are so interesting. Its also why im concerned about ram and video cards. If the means of computing are removed from us, ot will be hard to ger back. Already for many people, facebook and google is the internet. Many peoplw on here degoogle. Its really hard. And about to get harder.

    Jobs will absolutely be lost to ai, but my point is more jobs shoukd be created given the experience of every adcancenent in history. The wuestiin is did we need mire jobs when before ai layoffs and trumps poor policies, much of the world was approaching full employment.