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  • I assumed that it was given that I exclude the example (with the implication of it not usually being the case for people considering suicide).

    no social life

    I struggle to imagine a scenario where you actually have no chance of rebuilding a social life. What are you, a lighthouse keeper living far from any city and getting your groceries airdropped?

    You may not be in a situation where rebuilding a social life is trivial, but 50 years is enough time to learn how to find friends even in sub-optimal situations (e.g. at a grocery store). It is enough time to weed through different people until you find some that match you.

    Even looking at anecdotes (“We met on WoW”)

    You seem to be focusing your points on the lonelyness crisis, which is a real issue. Spending a decade without a social life is terrible, and I understand why someone who arrives at this point may consider their future to be hopeless.

    But while it may be understandable that a person considers suicide in this situation, it is not a rational (as in: long-term optimal) decision. A person in this situation may be exhausted, may be at or past a breaking point where they do no longer find the strength to keep on trying, and make the decision to commit suicide.

    This decision derives from a temporary, emotionally charged state. (I consider fatique an emotion here.)

    The rational (as in: long-term optimal) decision would be to keep trying. To keep going on until it just so happens that you exchange a few words with a stranger. Until it just so happens that you get to build foundational social skills, easing the possibility to approach others. Until it just so happens that you get an opportunity to talk to someone, and get to know them. Or maybe one day, out of a wind of confidence (or desperation) you approach just the right person. Or maybe that person approaches you. Or maybe you take to more unusual manners of getting to know people, that you find to work for you.

    And once you found a start, you can build off it. You can extend your social circle, find a partner, start a family, and live happily ever after.

    Quit the bs, I’ve been trying for a decade and it doesn’t work

    You have many years to go, and once you find a ledge to stand on, they will all be worth it.


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    19 hours ago

    There is no “rational” reasoning that leads to the conclusion that you’ll never be happy (unless you’re in an actively harmful situation, such as a torture prison or with an extreme chronic disease).

    You cannot tell whether you’ll be happy, you cannot know who you’ll be ten years in the future.

    Claiming that you won’t ever be happy simply because you haven’t been happy so far is short sighted and narrow minded.

    Suicide is always unreasonable.