I want to give perspective as an older experienced lady who has been structurally tight, then had kids, then had to do a lot of exercising and now am strong enough but not structurally tight. Have never (yet at least) had any issues getting slippery.
Worst of all is structurally tight. PIV was ok but kind of uncomfortable always, couldn’t go for long (not a problem back then because my ex was a quick guy). It felt like my skin was stretching in an uncomfortable and slightly unpleasant way. There was drag, even when I was slippery.
Last baby was a ten pound bruiser of a newborn and I had to recover my muscle tone. But once I regained the muscle tone, oh yes. That’s it. Flexible structurally (not tight skin) but strong muscularly is the best feeling from the woman’s side. This is when I found I could get off from PIV, can go for longer and can enjoy bigger hung guys, who would have been a flat NO before.
What’s funny is that this is exactly what my midwife recommended back when I had the first baby. She said to train until you can do fisting, that would prevent damage from childbirth and improve sex, and I thought she was crazy but if I could go back to 20 year old me I would tell her to take that advice.
I mean this only in the best way possible: the fact that the female body is literally designed to withstand physical trauma that extreme, and then just be at least as good if not better afterwards, is absolutely fucking ridiculous. Women are literally superhuman, I swear.
Yeah I wince at the “lips that grip” pictures; my body did not forget that feeling. And it was terrifying immediately after having kids, if course. But having the skin tightness eased and the muscles toned and a husband hung thicker than average, all of that combined is so pleasurable. I really wish I’d believed the midwife 30 years ago, and would advise any woman worried about ‘staying tight’ that controlled stretching and kegels and lots of sex is a much better long term strategy.
Amazing well thought out answer, thank you. It’s what I was hoping to hear from the question.
The vagina is an elastic organ and the “loose vagina” arguments are just bad women’s anatomy. Besides situations like recent birth or similar trauma or consistently using toys that put Siswet to shame you won’t feel a difference. If you do feel a difference, the problem isn’t the vagina and more likely that you have what the kids would call a “needle dick.”
I’m sorry. Are you suggesting that vaginas all have the same feel? Because as a dude who’s had sex with more than a handful of women, I can assure you that they are all unique. Not saying I could pick out my partner’s out of a blind line up, but to say they are all the same is just bad anatomy.
And some certainly do “feel” looser. Which is more than likely a direct relation to the arousal than anything being “big”, or something about the kegels. I dunno, I’m not a doctor.
So your theory is all vaginas are one size, and it’s only the penises that vary? Right. Why are you being upvoted? Also, OP said nothing at all about bad women’s anatomy or any reasoning for sizes. Put away your jump to conclusions mat.
Yes, there is absolutely a difference. And yes, loose vagina is worse.
I’m no biologist, but my perception is that the baseline is set by hip width (wider hips --> more loose) but much more important is physical fitness. Strengthening the diaphragm, core, and pelvic floor quickly elevates the experience and makes the baseline irrelevant.
My ex had crazy wide hips, never exercised, but was so tight it hurt us both.
Maybe what you’re saying is still true generally, just wanted to throw my experience out there.
Interesting - thanks for sharing! My opinion is definitely no more than anecdotal.
