anything that causes an animal to die to be consumed would not be vegetarian.
That would explicitly NOT include gelatin, which is made from the hooves and the like of animals already slaughtered for the parts people eat. Literally no one is slaughtering animals to make gelatin.
Mate. The animal has to die for the product to get made. There’s such a thing as avoiding waste: You wouldn’t slaughter an entire horse and just use the hooves, nor would you chop a chicken for just the wings. You use as much as you can. Stuff like gelatin usually has multiple source animals precisely because it’s made of what used to be wasted. There isn’t a way to extract these things without causing serious injury or death to the animal, ergo it is very much not vegetarian.
The animal has already died to make another product. There’s no additional animals killed to make gelatin.
There’s such a thing as avoiding waste
Exactly. Using the extra parts to make gelatin rather than just throwing them away is avoiding waste.
You wouldn’t slaughter an entire horse and just use the hooves, nor would you chop a chicken for just the wings. You use as much as you can
Yes, that’s what I’m saying!
Stuff like gelatin usually has multiple source animals precisely because it’s made of what used to be wasted
As opposed to killing any extra animals for gelatin. How the fuck can you keep disagreeing with the point you’re DESCRIBING in the affirmative??
There isn’t a way to extract these things without causing serious injury or death to the animal
You just described at length how no animal is killed for gelatin and as such using gelatin doesn’t involve any additional deaths versus NOT using gelatin. It’s not that difficult to understand…
By your logic, do you consider ground meat to be vegetarian? Animals aren’t slaughtered specifically for ground meat, it’s made of the extras, off-cuts, and all the bits that typically won’t get eaten, in a very similar vein as how gelatin is made.
That would explicitly NOT include gelatin, which is made from the hooves and the like of animals already slaughtered for the parts people eat. Literally no one is slaughtering animals to make gelatin.
It would also decidedly not include pork tenderloin, which is made from the tenderloin of animals already slaughtered
Now you’re just being wilfully obtuse.
Mate. The animal has to die for the product to get made. There’s such a thing as avoiding waste: You wouldn’t slaughter an entire horse and just use the hooves, nor would you chop a chicken for just the wings. You use as much as you can. Stuff like gelatin usually has multiple source animals precisely because it’s made of what used to be wasted. There isn’t a way to extract these things without causing serious injury or death to the animal, ergo it is very much not vegetarian.
The animal has already died to make another product. There’s no additional animals killed to make gelatin.
Exactly. Using the extra parts to make gelatin rather than just throwing them away is avoiding waste.
Yes, that’s what I’m saying!
As opposed to killing any extra animals for gelatin. How the fuck can you keep disagreeing with the point you’re DESCRIBING in the affirmative??
You just described at length how no animal is killed for gelatin and as such using gelatin doesn’t involve any additional deaths versus NOT using gelatin. It’s not that difficult to understand…
By your logic, do you consider ground meat to be vegetarian? Animals aren’t slaughtered specifically for ground meat, it’s made of the extras, off-cuts, and all the bits that typically won’t get eaten, in a very similar vein as how gelatin is made.
Well trolled. I don’t know why I bothered.