• Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca
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    21 days ago

    better start removing AI from Windows then… holy fucj my 16gb is barely holding up with windows11 that in forced to use on my work PC. slow as BALLS, it’s just raping the entire system performance constantly

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      21 days ago

      I wonder what’s going to happen to the electron frontends if machines are bottlenecked by ram so bad. Wasn’t facebook just planning to switch whatsapp’s frontend to webview as well? And win11’s desktop is electron too. Everyone was acting like ram is unlimited.

    • whoisearth@lemmy.ca
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      21 days ago

      I have win11 on a work surface laptop pro with 16gb and I’m consistently at 15+GB used. This is corporate bloat. How do I know? I have a personal surface pro 6 with win11 and 16gb and it runs like a breeze.

      Corporate bloat is such bullshit.

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      21 days ago

      For the price of 32GB, if you’re lucky. Hopefully it’s 8gb in a single stick so upgrading is cheaper, even if that means single channel ram speeds out of the box

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    21 days ago

    lol lets fuck all other computational sciences so that people can generate cats drinking whiskey in robes de chambre.

  • COASTER1921@lemmy.ml
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    20 days ago

    All web browsers are nearly unusable with 4gb of RAM lately. Even with desktop Linux I usually have nearly my full 8gb used. With 8gb AND Windows it’s only a matter of time before these computers become unusable…

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    21 days ago

    What. My six year old cheapo Acer laptop that got my broke ass through college had 16gb ram. My raspberry pi has 8gb of ram.

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    21 days ago

    I… ok.

    Am I an idiot, or… at least when it comes to system RAM…

    Do you really need DDR5 RAM, instead of DDR4?

    Like, say I have 32 GB or DDR4 vs 32GB of DDR5.

    Beyond I guess crushing some benchmark software harder… what are the actual practical benefits of this?

    For an average person?

    What can I do with 32 gigs of DDR5 that I can’t do with 32 gigs of DDR4? Or 16? Or 24?

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      21 days ago

      Typically the CPU and motherboard are both tied to a specific generation of RAM, which is keyed and traced differently on the motherboard for DDR 4 vs 5.

      For example the current AMD socket AM5 requires DDR 5. You’d have to go back to AM4 Ryzen 5000 series for DDR 4 support.

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        21 days ago

        I mean… I know that…

        But my question still stands.

        Ceteris paribus, keep as much else the same, same GPU, similar CPU by benchmark scores… swap the mobo and the sys ram…

        What do you actually gain by going from DDR4 to DDR5, in total, end-state capabilities?

        DDR5 is faster.

        What kinda stuff actually needs that being faster, actually benefits from it?

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          21 days ago

          It’s just the fact that, at some point, if you want a faster computer, you’re bound to have DDR5.

          AMD 5000 is fast, but how does it compare to last gen? Is there a 5000 CPU that can get the same score as a high end 9000 CPU?

          What if you have a homelab server to upgrade but find out you need more PCIe lanes?

          Other than that, yeah, you don’t need DDR5, but DDR4 is slowly going out of production and is also rising in price… so you’re screwed either way.

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          21 days ago

          IGPs are very dependant on memory speed. Many uses gains from faster memory speed (but I can’t give you one out of memory), but most games gains more from memory latency than raw speed (with some exception, like Stellaris).
          Usually, if your app is CPU heavy, you’ll gain from RAM speed.

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      22 days ago

      I agree, funny enough they require minimum 4 GB, but I had problems with it with 16 GB. 8 GB is nowhere near enough, especially if you use excel, teams, and that crap.

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        22 days ago

        I have to use windows at work, have 32gb and regularly get browser tabs unloaded for low memory. I’m not running VMs or anything. Usually just Firefox, visual studio, and slack.

        Personal computer is Linux with 16gb and that’s more than enough.

  • Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world
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    22 days ago

    Large computing will exist solely in the cloud where you will pay a subscription for it. Can’t have these grubbing consumers buy anything we elites don’t get a monthly cut of.

    I wish this was sarcasm.

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      22 days ago

      I am honestly not sure if that’s a bad thing aside from the capitalism of it all. Almost all tasks normal people do could be done with a 10 year old computer running Linux.

      I will find it hilarious if this RAM pricing issue causes people to move to Linux rather than have slow ass Windows 11.

      • Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world
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        22 days ago

        I’m positive its a bad thing. It will mean the end of ownership. Our children will be born and their only worth with be as consumers for which they can crushed for any reason the owners see fit. Its slavery and feudalism nothing more nothing less.