• spacelord@sh.itjust.works
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    4 months ago

    Seems that google’s announced plans to restrict sideloading on Android are now in direct conflict with the Supreme Court’s order to open the Play Store to alternative app stores and reduce its control over app distribution.

    How will this play out in the end… 🤔

    • pory@lemmy.world
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      4 months ago

      Google’s announced plans aren’t actually about restricting “sideloading” (aka installing). They’re about restricting actually running the code, and developing/distributing the code.

      Content distributed through these “other app stores” and elsewhere will remain installable, but your phone will refuse to run the software if that content isn’t signed with the special Google’s Favorite Boy token that the developer got by providing personally identifiable information to Google. Get that “certification”? Your app can be run on Android no matter how you distribute it, including “side loading” (download APK file, install app).

      Don’t have the Official Nintendo Seal of Quality Verified Developer token to sign your app with? The only way a user can run your code is by connecting to a PC and installing your app with adb (a development tool).

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      4 months ago

      Not at all, they can still require apps to be signed, so long as you’re free to allow app installations. They’ll weasel out by saying the signing is for safety/security reasons, to avoid malware and shit.

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        4 months ago

        Right and then they might well lose the next antitrust suit for weaseling around. Judges know what this kind of behavior means, though who can say how they’ll react.

        The timing is too perfect, the effects are too apparent.

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      4 months ago

      Well, if i can download a F-droid app via Playstore… then i’m basically not “sideloading” anything. This could be interesting!

      But the whole (paid) ‘verification’ thing still is troubling tho. And we know Google; they are good at breaking things one way or another.

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        4 months ago

        My thoughts exactly. That could be very comfy for us users, but many devs will be (and justifiably so) wary of verifying themselves.

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        4 months ago

        If I understand well, even if you were able to install F-droid through the store (which you can’t because Google doesn’t like it), you won’t be able to install apps with F-droid anyway if they implement this.

      • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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        4 months ago

        A lot of apk devs of nice little unique and often free apks are made by people who aren’t going to want to hand over there identification and private info to Google in order to be verified.

  • relativestranger@feddit.nl
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    4 months ago

    Google warns of security risks

    lol. if they actually kept all the bad shit out of the play store, they might have a valid argument.

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        4 months ago

        The Apple App Store is a cesspool. Has been for years. It’s just pushing short-term games with gobs of micro transactions by the hundreds. That’s almost all you see. Tons and tons of it.

  • Kokesh@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Fuck Google. It is turning Android into dumb platform, which is tightly controlled by them piece by piece. From restricting different APIs (accessibility for example) to Play Integrity checks and recently developer identification even for stupid APKs. Fuck Google, I hope they keep being put in place.

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      4 months ago

      I hope an alternative open platform emerges and google android goes poof. It would serve as a warning to others.

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          4 months ago

          my guess it’s hardware support; drivers and firmware for existing hardware and smartphone components for linux are probably close to nonexistent. The apk support is the smallest issue.

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          4 months ago

          the main hurdles from my understanding are processor/chip specs. They are generally super locked down in terms of who they run with/allow usage. From what I understand the liberux project ran into that issue because their goal was a fully open sourced Linux phone, and they had to make compromises and are still fighting issues.

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          4 months ago

          With PC people can get pick up whatever cpu, gpu, motherboard, and ram they want and put together a machine. But, phones are so much more reliant on prebuilts with little to no options when it comes to making your own phone hardware, so that is likely the largest barrier to becoming as open and flexible as PCs.