• JeSuisUnHombre@lemmy.zip
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    11 months ago

    The ability to strip away the title of “human being” is exactly what they are arguing for. You just have different criteria.

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      11 months ago

      if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance; thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance

      Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

      The world would be better off if everyone with racist views disappeared today. Let’s not defend those who would not hesitate to oppress us.

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        11 months ago

        this is as stupid of a take as saying, “violence is bad!” towards someone bloodied and bruised who just defended themselves from an attack.

        Self defense is different than drunkenly flattening a pedestrian lmao

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        11 months ago

        Jumping back here to say that

        we need to ALWAYS remember the sheer depravity other human beings are capable of.

        Is the only thing I’m saying

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        11 months ago

        You’re arguing against things I did not say nor imply. I have made no argument here against self defense nor for civility.

        I am abiding the paradox of tolerance by not tolerating dehumanizing rhetoric. Because I believe that rhetoric enables fascism.

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            11 months ago

            You need to work on your reading comprehension. I have said absolutely nothing about whether or not to celebrate the death of a nazi, neither does the paradox of tolerance.

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                11 months ago

                This entire conversation is on a post about the death of a nazi. “the horrible ideology took a loss” sure sounds like “the horrible ideology” of nazism “took a loss” of the death of one of their own.

                To go back to the point I was making in that comment, where did I say anything about celebration?

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                    11 months ago

                    Except I’m not. My scope has been very limited to the dehumanization aspect. But otherwise I’m done with you arguing in bad faith

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        11 months ago

        Until they are rehabilitated though, I will treat them as maggots. Being human does not automatically grant you untouchability for your actions. It doesn’t absolve you of your sins. It does not mean anyone around you must tolerate your continued existence.

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          No, I can’t blame anyone for visiting harm on Nazis. But that is a temporary solution. If we are to nullify supremacist ideologies, we must eacape survival of the fittest world views. Any ideology that requires violence will be surpassed by the next strongest, including the ideology that kills Nazis and white supremacists.