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  • The license is a one time payment for third party models. All of them are already aging. The C2 was a white label phone for Sailfish OS, the first dedicated Sailfish OS device in years and does not require any license nor does the new to be launched “Jolla Phone”. Most people ordered the Jolla Phone at 580 EUR. Whatever “postmarketOS-capable” phone you were thinking about but for 58 EUR it can’t be that great. Even cheaper Chinese competition equivalent hardware will cost around 200 EUR. The only Dimensity 7100 device I could find at this point was 260 EUR or so, with a worse screen.

    I do agree that they should go fully open source but they are at least gradually opening up those parts that are still closed (mostly UI and some few stock apps). Sailffish OS is light years from mainstream adoption, at the very least. But that is not the game they are playing. This is a niche product for people that either want to get away from Google or Apple, or some that actually like the fairly unique UI of Sailfish OS or like to tinker with its Linux base (whatever you think about Sailfish OS and its not entirely open nature, it is still the most functional Linux based alternative out there, when it comes to functioning as a phone, including VoLTE, camera etc, at least in Europe).

    Jolla has been years out of the wheel when it comes to own hardware. The crucial thing they need to prove now is that they are capable of delivering what they announced at maybe 15-20k sales.













  • That is a bit rich from someone who did not start the comment by saying, “I find public transport awful” but as a general truth “Its awful to go on public transport.”

    Same goes for your line about how people spend a fortune, just to avoid PT, when in fact, many don’t spend a fortune on cars when they happen to live in places where PT is decent and useful. Almost as if not so much the inherent general awfulness of PT makes people choose going by car but when PT is in that specific place just not good, people do so.


  • I guess that must be why living in Vienna gives you such a terribly low quality of life, as more trips are done by PT than by car and around half the households don’t even own a car (most of them could easily afford one), compared to for example Fake London in Canada.

    Travelling in a city designed for PT doesn’t take any longer than travelling by car in a city designed for cars. How? Because what cars are faster, they need more space, increasing necessary distances, and at the end leading to no improvement in travel times.