People have hope and heart for Star Wars … hope that got rekindled by a spark here and there like Andor and The Mandalorian’s early seasons. So the fans get pulled back in.
But soon after Disney brings pain again, and it is always on purpose, usually from very bad writing that should not have seen the green light, and lousy planning.
Granted there was toxicity and yes the level greatly increased when the sequels came out. But a lot of it was instigated by Disney, they started to spout the nonsense of “The Force Is Female” and “Star Wars has no strong women”, no one previously claimed the force to have a gender, or declared Leia a whimpering lass. But this was the Disney that promised a new hope for Star Wars when it was bought, and a conclusion to the story the “later” generation of fans were hoping for, to see how their old heroes had fared, after perhaps reading all the books the hopes were high. And it was all thrown in a puddle of mud and stomped on on purpose by Disney. The heroes were willfully destroyed, in movies that had no production planning and lousy writing. This is what made the mouthier fans angry.
On top of that Disney’s media output was only making it worse, and, as was later proven, a lot of the negativity some actors perceived was pushed on them by the media, not the fans (both John Boyega and Kelly Marie Tran said as much, Gina Carano’s story falls in the same category, Disney attacked her through social media bots or so it is said), yet the blame landed firmly and only on toxic fans. Disney’s opening toxicity was always waved off.
Anyone daring to comment on the sexist remarks of the force being female or Rey being a Mary Sue was immediately stamped as toxic.
And for just about every tv show there was a remark or two from Disney far ahead of the release of the show that got the fans raging, Andor was just about the exception, that one had a lot of radio silence.
In all, I as a fan am bummed out there was/is toxicity, but I can’t swallow it no more that legit, polite, grievances and criticism are being cast off as being toxic and the Disney product is beyond reproach and can only be revered.
The Acolyte has shown cringely bad writing so far, from episode 1 to 3 it’s only gone downhill, and I think people should be allowed to comment on that, if it turns out to be the next Shakespeare at the end, well the first 3 definitely never will be.
No you’re right, the actors don’t have to, but then they ALSO don’t need to spout falsehoods about starwars like “Star Wars never had strong females”, or 'Anakin blew up the Death star" like it was gospel … as an actor for an IP if you don’t know anything about it just say so and don’t make toxic comments just to rile up people.
The actor playing the inquisitor in Kenobi said he knew nothing of star wars … I don’t recall anyone really flaming him personally for that (but the character was put through the wringer in writing).
I brought that up because if they don’t know anything about SW, why did Lucasfilm put them out on the interviews to spout as much nonsense as possible? That is plain wrong.
Interestingly, the creator of Andor was not even a SW fan but he properly read up on the material and did not let himself be used for someone else’s agenda by giving empty headed interviews.
Lawrence Kasdan had George Lucas beside him … The crew of The Acolyte have someone next to them who is almost saying George Lucas shouldn’t be Star Wars’ creator.
If the writers don’t know what entails star wars … then why get upset if star wars fans don’t recognize star wars in the product? It’s not a magical faerie dust the Disney team sprinkles over it post production. No matter how much they’d like that. A good writer studies its subject and writes about it with passion, if neither are done you get drivel like “the power of one, shallala, the power of two, mulalala, the power of thr’many-y”
Final point, if they boast the outrageous 180M (movie!) budget, and up to epsode 3 out of 8 (at ~30 minutes a pop) it gives you that, it does not bode well for the rest of the show and it’s a bad thing once again no one higher up pulled the brake on this… In you calling the complainers a fool (oops toxicity seeping in!), you absolutely miss the point, what is shown now is not up to the quality deserving such a budget, not even 30% at $60Million… but dividing it per episode would make you say it’s unfair too because each episode has different effects etc. Even reviewing the series per episode is a no-no then because one can’t see the whole series … so reasoning with you on that is moot.
Other flopped SW series had far less of a budget to work with, and with more budget for the Acolyte it promised a lot, but the team still put out subpar writing … again … and it is the again that people are upset about. So I will quote someone: “Who is more foolish, the fool, or the one following him?” … The people complaining are definitely not accepting the budgetary worth of the series so far.
In all, it is clear the people having heart for the IP are on the wrong side of the fence and their points and passions declared unsubstantial by the selfcentered other side.
But I bet if it does turn out to be amongst the best SciFi we have seen in a while there will be plenty of praise and no more complaints about the budget, anyone remember Andor?
Somehow I don’t see it happening this time. <cough>Rebel Moon<cough>
Ironic you say that because it’s proven that the actors and staff of The Acolyte (and some in the Kenobi series as well) never saw a bit of star wars and have no basic knowledge of the property.
So it is an issue that fans complain how badly written the Acolyte is for the budget, even if they only heard about it from others or seeing clips, but it is no issue the cast and staff don’t know a single thing about Star Wars lore but do force their own mind-canon of star wars on the fans … ?
I am going to leave this example here, it shows a then and now, and ask you, who is being toxic, where does the toxicity start, every time, far before a project is launched? Because there was no negative fan backlash before these interviews aired.
https://youtu.be/qCtwjmuXu2E?si=XJuu1SEtHCd_NKom
(No I am not affiliated with the channel, it just presents a striking example)
Also, tell me why hire such incompetent people shown here and such writers while there is an astronomical budget? Why shouldn’t people get angry about it?
And also ask plain why, why insult your fanbase and your product like that and play innocent when the fans pick up their pitchforks.
This is a billion dollar company that IS ABLE to produce quality content, but it chooses to pump out this junk every time, why?
The result of the US elections are the tipping point either way for the whole world, and every country is awaiting what will happen.
One side drops the world in misery, from the full destruction of Ukraine and it’s people, to an intense war in the EU and the Koreas.Taiwan as a country will cease to exist, as will its chip production. Not to mention the deep scarring that will take place within the US itself where it will see the Constitution torn up. America First, but as a consequence it loses power and status everywhere else for years to come.
The other possibility is that starting in 2025 the current big worldwide conflicts will be resolved semi peacefully, a slow growth to more financial prosperity and equality sets in plus a number of billionaires will need to pay some of their taxes, but international treaties and trades will be reinforced.
I am really hoping for the latter, because if the outcome is the first, we’ll see a least a decade of chaos and economic downfall everywhere.
So, my choice is made, it will be better in 2025 <crosses fingers>