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    8 months ago

    the whole point is that the most resonating choice for ruler becomes the ruler…

    Do you actually believe that the political establishment/ruling class of this country has ever “resonated” with the majority of people?

    At least in recent times, there is much more evidence to the contrary.

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      8 months ago

      To an extent. They might artificially thrust some people into the game, and the system is clunky, but as far as votes go when votes are offered, they are listened to. If the person in charge was a cheat, it would technically prove my point even more, because it would imply it’s not a true game of representation and that those of us who may be considered adherents to “left” streams of thought are on more street corners than the “they’re a demographic minority” view might suggest.

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        8 months ago

        The only options people have to vote on are what are offered to them. The problem is, that in the US, you need money to become an option. That money comes mainly from corporations. Corporations won’t back a left wing party or politician.

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          I can name several examples to the contrary. Google is the most successful business in the entire nation, and they’ve been 100% consecutively in favor of “left” choices, often even promoting logo imagery of people whom a decade ago would be considered radicals. Don’t forget corporations in the modern era have sacrificed face to make completely meaningless changes to their marketing that they knew would put them in the path of the opposition to cancel culture (Aunt Jemima, Budweiser, etc.). The idea that corporations don’t have at least a little sense of “left” is false.

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            8 months ago

            Nothing Google does or supports is actually a leftist anything. You’re making the same mistake all Americans make - buying into the propaganda that left/right is about social permissiveness. It’s actually an economic spectrum, and every meaningful company or organization is either far right, or extreme right.

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                    8 months ago

                    A gesture is meaningless. Advocacy is action and is intended to generate meaningful change. A corporation does everything for money. The only actual advocacy a corporation like Google is doing is to benefit its bottom line. Y’all look at giant corporate entities who provide some meaningless lip service to a marginalized community and think that means they are on the side of the left? That’s some truly delusional pea-brained shit right there. If you’d quit getting your panties in a wad about this dumb-ass culture war crap, you’d realize that class solidarity is the only meaningful way any of us can actually change society for the better, but all the right wing chucklefucks are too busy trying to punish some group or another for some trumped up crusade created by rich dudes to keep y’all busy. Pea-brained shit.

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            8 months ago

            Google and other major corporations will try garner goodwill by supporting ideas that they want people to think of them as. Its the same with pride support and green washing.

            If you as an American ( I assume) believe that Google is positioned to the left, l’d say you basically proove the point of there not being a left in the US

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              Even though Google knows it’s facing backlash for said views? It’s been a decade and they still flagship “left” streams of thought, posting videos about them on YouTube every two instances, typically with the comments/ratings disabled as a defense mechanism. What is that garnering? On at least three occasions they had a Google doodle of people who outright celebrated terrorism and 9/11 as steps in the right direction. Definitely not typical PR.

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                On at least three occasions they had a Google doodle of people who outright celebrated terrorism and 9/11 as steps in the right direction. Definitely not typical PR

                Could you share exambles of these? Also could you link to the youtube videos of them promoting left orientated thought and actions?

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                    Holly f*ck man! Celebrating Karl Marx’ birthday (or any other socialist, communist or left orientated personality) does NOT make Google left orientated! It’s like I said, them trying to appeal to a wider customer range, just like supporting LGBT+ and environmental activists