• dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      10 months ago

      People always say this and then fail to provide a single example of when proper socialism existed and then destroyed the country.

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      10 months ago

      How so? Cuba has one of the most open democracies in the world. Plus free healthcare, no homelessness, and enough free high level education to provide Italy with doctors during the pandemic.

      All while the world’s current top superpower is right beside them, sees them as an enemy, and has a still ongoing embargo on them for 60 years now to prevent them from trading with other countries. That’ll hopefully change once China’s Belt and Road Initiative is complete though.

      Clearly this model works. It does require expelling landleeches, plantation owners and billionaires if they don’t hand over the means of production to the workers (like Cuba did after the revolution), but I don’t think most people would mind that.

      It also historically requires fighting off the US though because military, oil, and other private corporation owners can’t exploit Socialist countries as much, which is harder.

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          10 months ago

          I can’t think of anything to refute your comment

          So you understand my point. Thanks lol

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            10 months ago

            No, it’s just pointless to argue with someone so out of touch with reality he believes Cuba is one of the most democratic countries

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              It is though? People directly nominate individuals in their area, and the ballots are checked in public where anyone can attend.

              This results in a Parliament that evenly and properly represents the entire population. That’s why Cuba has an unusually high percentage of women in the government, 53.22% now (U.S has 29.0%), and better LGBT rights than the U.S. nowadays.

              The power of a proper democracy.

              Being rich as an advantage is also taken away by banning advertising yourself/anyone. You need social connections with the people in your area (Socialism) instead.

              Not knowing something is fine, but being ignorant and arrogant about it is unfortunate. Though I suppose it is unbelievable, if you’re in a Capitalist country, to hear that a nation has solved homelessness, starvation, and education by just changing its political/economic system (and fighting off the US after).

              Imagine its sheer potential once it can trade with other countries with that massive advantage, after the US is eventually forced to stop the embargo.