• Yggstyle@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    You keep saying this and not providing any credible points as to why two unrelated things are, indeed, the exact same thing.

    We should have a vow of silence and no longer speak: then it’s impossible to have hate speech!

    This is, in essence, the jump you are making. If not - detail for us - how you prevent hate speech. No generalizing.

    Aaaand go: ⏱️

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      1 day ago

      why do i need a “credible source” to say nazis are bad and enabling them is bad?

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        1 day ago

        Not the question. I’ll use smaller words:

        You say free speech = hate speech. Why?

        What is the fix? You can’t claim one without knowing the other.

        aaaand go ⏱️

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          1 day ago

          no dude. i did not say that, read it again. the fix is shutting them up.

          why the fuck are you so intent in protecting nazis?

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            1 day ago

            And at no point in any of my posts have I mentioned anything about Nazis. You have, however.

            So to keep you on track- as I’m sure you want to change the subject: you want to answer the questions?

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              1 day ago

              youve been arguing in favor of allowing them (you?) to be out in the open.

              im not sure if your tangential gotcha questions are relevant for anything other than steering this conversation away from this and into some pointless debate about the abstract idea of freedom.

              there is no practical reason to let nazis be nazis.

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                Nice edit.

                Alright you want to play on this path I’ll update the question.

                Sure, Nazis are bad, obviously. But you want to talk about it so here we go:

                How would you, @umbrella@lemmy.ml , stop Nazis from nazi-ing. Specifically.

                I have no issue posing the question again regardless of the topic change. So let’s hear it. ⏱️

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                    15 hours ago

                    In the end every troll fails the same way: they can’t back up the bullshit they spew. Thank you for playing. You were a fine demonstration of exactly what I support.

                    You posted garbage, I engaged you and shut you down. Publicly. You couldn’t back up what you said: so you turned to insults and accusations in an attempt to redirect the conversation… and when put to task on backing up your stance you folded like a house of cards.

                    Textbook. Get some better material that hasn’t been around for 20 years.

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                Them? That’s your inference. What you are doing is making a bad faith argument which others have called out. It’s a common tactic by people who are trolling or looking to derail a discussion.

                There is nothing wrong with my views on freedom of speech. You’ve made nothing but generalized comments and accusations - and provided no meaningful discussion or answers. The second I pressured you to provide specifics you shifted to an extreme accusation to change the topic. It’s textbook. I’m simply engaging with you because it’s funny to watch you dance around giving a direct answer: because you can’t.

                If I’m wrong then you should be able to provide a direct answer to those questions above. ⏱️

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                  17 hours ago

                  nothing ambiguous about straight up saying i dont think nazis deserve speech, and they should not be in the open.

                  the misintepretation comes from your part

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                    15 hours ago

                    And yet you are unable to produce a single method to stop them from speaking.

                    … and despite your utter inadequacy - are absolutely certain that not only does free speech somehow enable them to exist… but that supporting free speech makes you one. Thank you for playing this out.

                    I’ll still accept a response to the question, but we both know you neither have an answer nor the ability to provide one.