• disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world
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    7 hours ago

    Bourgeois is the characteristic of the middle class.

    Bourgeoisie is the middle class itself.

    The Aristocracy is the class that controls most governments.

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        During the time of Marx, the bourgeoisie was keeping the proletariat down.

        Now, the bourgeoisie has become smaller and less influential.

        Our oppressors are the aristocrats.

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          What?! The bourgeoisie is the owning class of the means of production. They exploit labour and are the primary enemy of the working classes of this world

          EDIT: aristocrats are a feature of feudalism and it’s remnants

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            Right. And what class is running Blackrock, Vanguard, State Street and the like that sit on the board with majority ownership of every bourgeoisie owned business? Please.

        • Metz@lemmy.world
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          More like plutocrats. Aristocrats would be the nobel left after the fall of monarchies. Plutocrats are the rich corporate elite.

          Or just go with the umbrella term: Oligarchs.

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            Fair. We still agree that our enemy is not the bourgeoisie. They’re becoming more of the proletariat every year.

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    Frankly, I think the Professional Managerial Class is more of an impediment to progress in the US. They’re content with having 25-80% more than their peers, and thus will happily unite with the petite bourgeoisie to punch downwards at any progressive reforms.

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      The billionaires are the real problem. Targeting anyone else is just a distraction.

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        They are, but if you’re only focused on one element, without seeing the whole picture, than any solution is temporary at best.

        It’s not just that billionaires are bad, their existence is a symptom of a larger broken system. And within that same broken system are millions of cogs that perpetuate and solidify the system’s processes. So without addressing the Professional Managerial Class and petite bourgeoisie’s complicity, the system would simply create more billionaires after enough time has passed.

        To say that these other elements are “a distraction” is dismissive of larger root problems. So consider that your perspective is too narrow.

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          It’s not just that billionaires are bad, their existence is a symptom of a larger broken system.

          Capitalism is the problem here. Billionaires (Capitalists) are not merely a symptom, they are deeply part of the root problem as they have the most power to fix things if they wanted to use their wealth for good rather than evil. I also want to point out that growing the wealth disparity with little to no regard for the damage done to society or the future is largely the entire point of capitalism.