Pretty straightforward: where does the awareness that porn wrecks your mind and sexuality stops and where does simply conservatism towards sexuality begins (even in cases akin to bolshe morality)?

EDIT: okay, better clarifying it - i came across some video from some youtuber claiming that pornography is evil, period. and that there are things such as “metapornography”, which could apply to someone in instagram posting videos of themselves in scant dressing and claiming likes of it. and that no-fap and anti-masturbation movements are good things.

i was really confused about that since that person came from apparently a progressive-yet-moralistic background. but talking to other people to see if some of my impressions checked, it came to my mind that it was a heavily directed video intended to attract left-leaning people to a conservative agenda. my bad.

  • Vanth@reddthat.comEnglish
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    13 hours ago

    I think you have a very different perspective from me on what OP was asking and what this thread is. To paraphrase:

    OP said “here are these extreme claims that seem strange to me, is this really what most people believe?”

    To which I said, “wtf, no, those are way out there. You’re in a YouTube bubble that doesn’t reflect the mainstream nor anyone with a data-based position”.

    And you… seem to want to argue about the actual effects of porn. This is not a conversation about the effects of porn, this is a thread about how the yt video OP saw is propaganda. You don’t need to expend effort to pick out the small bits of truth within misinformation and propaganda. If you want to discuss the effects of porn, post a thread and find someone who wants to have that discussion. Good luck.

    • TonoManza@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
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      12 hours ago

      I think you have a very different perspective from me on what OP was asking and what this thread is.

      Indeed it seems so. I read it more as

      OP: “I believe porn can ruin your mind and sex habits, how do we acknowledge this without delving into conservatism on the issue.”

      You: “wtf porn doesn’t ruin your life, you’re in a rabbit hole and your entire premise is wrong”

      Me: “Porn can ruin your life, why would you suggest it can’t? Look at gooners”

      …

      I feel you have to actually understand and acknowledge the real potential effects of pornography in order to find the line between recognition of harmful effects and conservatism.