We don’t actually want to kill billionaires.

We joke about it because we want them to stop slowly killing us.

Given enough time and some sort of foundation to build on, like an understanding of a related language, I’m sure you could do it.

It’s weird how most people just give up on language acquisition after acquiring one.

But not when theyre kids. As kids, you honestly are just a sponges for any languages you hear.

After 27 or so it’s probably harder (neural plasticity seems to slowly down at 27, some sort of cause or correlation with culture idk, but it happens), but definitely still doable.

I have no idea how long it would take me, but when watching shows, I always have subs, so even if I don’t know any of the language, you start picking up words. First it’s just the proper nouns which you can pick up, names of places and people, then it’s the words relating to those nouns, and soon it’s common verbs and then you can basically form two word sentences (want beer, am hungry, go away, etc) and then it’s just more and more exposure to the language and you’ll get it eventually.

I know, and I’m sorry for not putting up a further disclaimer, but the English have destroyed so many cultures and languages that listing them all would’ve just taken up too much space.

Gabh mo leiscéal, I have the utmost respect for the Irish.

Second age, duh.

Apparently on average, it’s easier for Estonians to Understand Finnish than it is for Finns to understand Estonian.

One of those asymmetric mutual intelligibility things. Interesting video, that.

From what I gather from culture, I’d say Spanish is like a tiny bit more prevalent in the US than Swedish is in Finland. And this varies city to city, of course. I live in a city which used to be capitol while we were under Swedish rule: Turku / Åbo. I think the city actually having two such different names is a bit of a giveaway. The Finnish names derives from “marketplace”, whereas the Swedish means “a dwelling by the river”.

I don’t much use Swedish either. I had to use it for customer service some, but even that was years ago so my vocabulary is pretty shit. A lot of the Western Finnish coastal cities are bilingual and have a somewhat significant Swedish speaking population, but it’s honestly rare to even hear Swedish being spoken on the street. A few cities are mainly Swedish speaking people though, but not Turku. And from that side, Spanish is less prevalent in the States, as I can’t think of entire cities which basically have Spanish as their main language, just cities with very large populations of Spanish speakers. Also, a huge difference is that in the States, Mexicans and people from even further South are often seen as socioeconomically lower generally, whereas we have a saying “Svenska talande bättre folk”, meaning roughly “better people speak Swedish”.

But yeah, all the media I watch is in a language I wasn’t born with, so I’m always learning. Even with English, can always learn. Just reminded me of this sketch. German wants to watch a foreign films.

I love shows which have multiple languages. Like mainly English, but then there’s significant bits with simple-ish conversations in other languages. It’s like you get to have a bit of language practice in the middle of enjoying a show/movie.

I’ve gone a bit overboard with the glög in the past few weeks, lol. Tasted too good, and I’m sort of doing science here. I’ve been trying exclusion diets and finally figured out something that’s bothered me my entire life, and now I genuinely don’t even get a hangover despite drinking quite heavily. Very weird. If drinking was this easy when I was a kid, I’d have definitely abused alcohol. I could never drink two days in a row as a kid, just couldn’t do it and didn’t understand how others could.

Here:

I got these glasses, uh… mugs? which are like from my grandma (she’s still alive though but moved to a home so we emptied most of the house). Real silver, I think, because of how it feels and how it’s darkened. I tried polishing the other one with some toothpaste the other day, seemed to work, but didn’t really make it shiny shiny. Just took a lot of the oxidation off.

There’s so many delicious glögs on Alko (the central shop for anything above 8% in Finland, monopolised govt owned alcohol shops, “offies” basically.) Raspberry, bilberry, one which is brandy and mulled wine. All delicious. Add a bit of rum and were off. Cheers!

My hand has an accuracy of about 0.1-0.2g accuracy. Well, with weed. I haven’t measured how accurate it is with spices or salt or sugar because I never measure those.

I have to admit that this doesn’t work nearly as well when I’m watching anything Asian. I mean I’ve got a tiny tiny tiny understanding of the things Japanese people put at the end of words and I can now hear those a little after watching the samurai show that came out what was it. Absolutely amazing.

Uh… “Shōgun”, yeah.

Anyway, it works much better for PIE-languages, and obviously the easiest ones are Nordic/Germanic, seeing as they’re coursing languages to English and I know Swedish.

I think having a native non-PIE language really helped, as once I learned English properly (and had some Swedish) the others just started making sense more or less. Eastern European languages are harder, but I haven’t watched any shows in Polish yet…

Finnish must be a fucking nightmare, seeing how many grammatical cases we have and those are applied to all words in a sentence basically. So just modifying the verb will mean that you probably have to conjugate every other word differently.

Like one simple example “I want a car” “haluan auton” but do you want your car (you not thee, so plural second person) would be “haluatteko autonne” but if you want to say “would you like to have your car” it’s “haluaisitteko autonne”, and in the singular second person it’s “haluatko auton”, but also in informal Finnish you can sometimes drop the conjugations and indeed using them might seem too formal, and also you’d use some sort of dialect so in reality second person singular informal would be “haluaks auton”, but you can also put in the word for you “sinä”, (which informally is mostly “sä”) and its the same thing “haluaks sä auton”, but if you change it to “haluaks sun auton” it becomes “do you want your car”.

Whops rant. I’ve had a glög. My point being Finnish must be crazy hard to learn. I’d need to learn an Asian language to get into that whole market of languages better.

I’ve always been into languages though, and didn’t even need to be taught to read, as I picked it up myself from newspapers, as I was annoyed my older brother had a skill I did not.

When I watched the latest season of Babylon Berlin, I dreamt in German for a few times. And I do not speak it enough to have a conversation. Enough to order in a restaurant, sure, but not enough to chat like in my dreams.

I understand the chorus from that song, and some of the Lyrics. I just wish I was in a position to go live abroad for a few years, I’d like to see how fast I become fluent in some of these European languages I’m somewhat primed for. Plus they legalised weed in Germany, so that’s another good reason as well.

One random thought I had about this the other day was that I feel sort of bad for the British, Irish, Americans and Australians. Well, the monolingual ones.

Anytime they go abroad, it’s like “oh they didn’t even bother to learn the language”, but then when we who didn’t grow up on English do, we’ve already learned at least English, so not knowing the local language is somehow more understandable. Or perhaps people don’t feel that way, but it’s just a thought I had. Like it feels less polite when a native English speaker just addresses someone in English in a foreign country, but if a non-English speaker asks “do you speak English” with broken English, it’s much more… sympathetic.

I’m just babling nevermind me.

I do agree with you though and can’t really understand people in my country who still say they can’t speak English. I mean, people who still use the internet and consume media that’s in English. I don’t get it. Language acquisition gets worse sure, but it’s never gone away from me at least. I watch one season of some show in a language I don’t understand and I already start picking up the very basics. Nothing I could use, surely, but like my brain is clearly structuring and trying to make sense of the language, so with enough exposition to a language…

First off, whilst it might seem selfish, I’d get my personal shit fixed up, would take at most 50k and if I bought some apartment house to own as well, maybe a few hundred k on top.

Okay now I’m settled and healthy. Start making a media company. Hire some great talent. Hire some video game designers, politicians. Essentially start a very weird sort of studio.

Then a sort of a think-thank, a little bit. Focusing on what would be the most efficient ways of approaching systemic change. (I’ve tons of ideas already for those meets, notebooks full. Not too organised, I’m unafraid, and it’s hard to start reasoning them here due to the char limit of 10k).

Start a foundation, a league of some sorts. What I mean by that is have some sort of guiding ideology, a very rough and not too ideologically narrow, but also definitely what would be called leftist in traditional terms.

Then te work starts. Charity projects where they’re the most efficient, so they’ll have the largest effect. What that means will take a few comments to argue I’d wager.

Start promoting cooperation and whatnot. Fund streamers who join the league, so that for instance some streamers traveling in a poor country would have the ability to access the funds of the foundation to for instance help build some infra for a tiny village which will take away 50% of their travel time or work load or something, giving that community a better chance to grow.

So all these hundreds if not thousands of streamers going around the world, and if bigger infra projects are needed, the foundation can help with those as well. Like building some huge solar power/water distillation plants.

Just building from the ground up.

But that wouldn’t help jack shit with political issues we currently have. That requires another plan I have. Except if the league was also on point with what’s going on in local politics said places and could promote change with the amount of influence it had, when directed to smaller political entities it might be enough to sort of clean them od corrupt people as well if there is a democratic process of some sort at least.

Like using the foundations entire population to focus on some minor local election should overwhelm it. Do that enough and there’s a substantial effect. Maybe

Like infrastructure designed for providing hot water (>75C) directly to the kitchen?

Damn, that’s amazing.

We only got saunas.

“Probably not”… what?

Money only buys happiness to up about like a 100k a year or so. I don’t know it might be even more now, but definitely not over 200k.

It used to be roughly 70k USD and 50k EUR some 10 years ago when I read the study. That’s the point at which you’re financially secure enough to have your basics needs met and have enough over to climb towards self-actualization.

From well kept recycled parts which are labeled? Not much of a challenge.

From DUMPSTER parts? I’d say that’s more impressive, as you need the knowledge and tools to know what works and what doesn’t.

Yeah, sure, given a limitless timeframe, you can sit there until you get lucky enough for someone to drop a completely functioning but disassembled PC on your lap. But building one? You might need to clean parts, research what they are to get the proper drivers and OS even if you manage to find a set that actually fits together. Tracking down and fixing tiny shorts in circuits? That’s not the same skills as putting together some Legos.

I’ve been in IT support in cities and schools and even when there’s a massive pile of computers and hardware that are known to not be broken, it’s sometimes a challenge.

You know how hard it is building a bookshelf? Take a piece of wood. Put book(s) on it. Now you’ve a bookshelf.

Not really. Emotional attachment is forbidden, not marriage.

Marriage didn’t used to be about feelings, but about political convenience basically.

How’d you know? for those who don’t remember

I’ve found those sort of people to be pretty psychotic themselves.

Who’s downvoting this?

caloric deficiency.

Guess I found the limit of a lemmy comment, huh? ~10k chars. Kk.

Anyway, to sum it up, it’s just my opinion based on what I know and believe, but I do believe you should try and exclusion diet for a few weeks with some light exercise if you’re capable, then do LSD, ecstasy or shrooms and then look at this again. You’ve clearly tried the more traditional cares, which are usually pretty ineffective. If you try those as well and still want to kill yourself, well, then I can’t help you further. But I still refuse to straight out assert that no help is possible. Because it’s hard to assert something is NOT possible. Things might be extraordinarily unlikely, but not… impossible.

That’s what kept me alive at least.

As a kid I got help from a few times at a raves or a few times slightly tripping at home with friends or solo. A few times a year, at the most. Found it quite helpful at times. But it didn’t take away my body’s feeling of sort of being “overclocked”. That went away with my exclusion diet mostly. I don’t assume it will work for you, but it definitely wouldn’t harm you.

I mean, what have you to lose by trying? I mean I know I had to lose was just being annoyed at doing something I didn’t find that pleasurable. But that’s why I got the candy. And chicken. And anything remotely pleasurable, while still remaining within the limits of the low fodmaps. It took a few weeks, but I started feeling better. Now I do still get symptoms if I expose myself to gluten or whatnot, but not like bad, not instantly. A few hours in I might notice some tiny symptoms, but nothing clinically significant. But several days in and then I start noticing the same things again.

One major thing I always notice is this weird feeling of like mouth feeling different. It’s weird never really knew how to explain it. Different ph in the mouth? Idk. It’s just like… slightly off.

I’m still depressed and in a shit life situation, but I had developed pretty significant coping strategies throughout my years, and now all of those are just… so much more effective.

But also you did mention being around “the age where schizophrenia is the worst” and I think you’re talking about 27 and yeah I had my worst years then as well. I’m still reeling and it’s been almost a decade.

Anyway, you do what you think is right, but that’s my 20000000000000000000000000000 cents.

I haven’t actually worked through anything. My life is equally as shit as it was when I was wanting to kill myself. But I don’t feel like killing myself. I still have the issues, they just… don’t affect me as negatively. I’m not as sensitive to them as I was. My nervous system is clearly stronger, fortified. So I have to deduce there was something wrong with it, as I always suspected (and had evidence of as well.)

Now I won’t get too into anything and understand opinions differ, so please keep that in mind as I might assert some of my opinions and I do realise they’re opinions, but I want to share mine. Not asserting any facts or suggesting any behaviours (even when I suggest things), as it will just be my opinion, and I offer it because I understand that even if I suggest something, you’ll still reflect on it yourself before doing it. I’m just saying this for a disclaimer because I usually come off as a dick (it’s not just your interpretation, it’s a problem I have, being sort of too neutral which often comes of as straight up aggressive or offensive.)

So, first off, I’m not a healthcare professional, let’s acknowledge that. These are opinions I hold, even when some are arguably on facts, these are still my opinions from those facts. I am however trained as a supply core non-commissioned officer by the Finnish army. This essentially means we’re trained to uphold the fighters capability to fight, outside of medical problems. Ie water, food, supplies. Well, nutrition is a big big part of this. Basically, I am expected to know how a person who doesn’t have any medical problems should be able to keep up their physical capability for a fight that lasts two weeks, with a final escalation of a big fight that lasts 72 hours (during which rest is extremely limited.). Anyway, I don’t think people realise how big of a deal nutrition is. Have you been to a nutrition therapist? Like an actual, proper one, not someone just calling themselves a therapist for Facebook. When you tried gluten-free, did you keep it up for at least 2-3 months? And if you did, I would then suggest doing either GFCF or low FODMAPS if the former doesn’t work. It takes patience, and money, but it can help. Not everyone, obviously, I’m not saying you don’t have something like lupus, what do I know, but at least from what you write, your body is running on reserves, ie on a deficiency, which is why you’re losing weight. Now unless you’re an expert in nutrition (which I’m not either, but I do have some idea) it’s highly unlikely you’re getting all the required vitamins you need from your restricted diet. And even if you are, running on reserves makes the body go into a “powersaving” mode, which also limits pleasure, because the brain is highly energy intensive. Your brain isn’t getting enough energy to feel good, so… you won’t. I really wouldn’t worry about being overweight as much as being extremely depressed. It’s not like even if you had an objectively perfect body you’d do anything with it with major depression, right? So might as well have a little less perfect body, which actually is preferred by most people, by the way, unlike the culture would have you understand. Average-looking people honestly fuck more than very good looking people, who get into their heads, or who average looking people don’t hit on, because “they’re probably out of my class anyway.”

Anyway, everything I’m saying is on the assumption that you don’t have some underlying disease none of this would help with. But I would point out that lupus is an autoimmune disease. And relating to autoimmune symptoms was something I had as well. What I did was to pretty much exclude everything, just in case. So I ate rice and gluten free fish sticks, had a vegan gluten free protein drink and some gluten free candy. The candy because the brain needs energy to function. I always had this weird desperate need for candy when I woke up. I tried describing it several times to doctors, but they never listened or took me seriously. Since I was a kid. Now since I did the exclusion diet, I’ve not really had it, unless I’ve exposed myself to gluten, after a few days of which it feels like my body just can not absorb nutrients properly. I understand we are very different and I’m not trying to say you have the same thing or would be aided by the same thing. But I’m saying I was so desperate as well that I just went full exclusion diet, because I felt it was an autoimmune issue, and I felt strongly it was related to diet, or at least my sugar metabolism, (with the hankering in the mornings and other such things), so I excluded tomatoes, anything with allium (onion, garlic, leek, etc), gluten, dairy, and even beef and other meat proteins at one point, even when a beef protein allergy is very unlikely.

After weeks of that shitty simple diet, but definitely giving my body more than enough as calories and making sure I also get a good variety of vitamins with either supplements or drinks like the protein (which have added vitamins), getting all the vital macros and micros, but making sure to avoid pretty much anything that could be an allergen, I started feeling better. I never knew you’re actually supposed to want to eat three times a day. I didn’t know you’re not supposed to be able to burp three hours after eating a meal to still taste the meal.

Anyway, your problem does sound different, but if it’s something to do with autoimmune or nutrition, it might help to try that. When our dog had allergies, the vets just went “rice, potatoes, chicken and fish, that’s all you’ll give him, he should be fine”. The point being it’s so hard to chase after an allergen that it’s easier to give a simple exclusion diet. For dogs it’s obviously easier as they don’t spice their food or whatnot, but can you say you’ve ever went even a few days of avoiding the allergens I just listed? It’s essentially the low FODMAPS diet for IBS. Here’s some quickly googled John Hopkins article on it.

From my very objective and masculine solution focused emotion ignoring Finnish moronical mechanical point of view, I would say that you do that diet for a few weeks and have a caloric surplus (yes you might gain weight, but it’s a sacrifice I’m willing to make) but I don’t excpect that you to make you necessarily feel better at all. I expect it to prime your body to be able to feel better. If you do that, and then the next thing, and you don’t feel good, I would be surprised. I’m not saying I don’t think it could happen, but I would put money against it. So what is the next thing? During that few weeks, or a few weeks following the first one, whatever you feel like, if you can, light exercise. If you can’t, it’s fine.

But then, a serotonergic substance, but with set&setting in mind. It’s a complex issue, because doing ecstasy at home doesn’t necessarily feel good, and you’re not probably ready to go to a rave or anything. So maybe… LSD and movies? That would be my suggestion. If you want even more introspection, mushrooms. But if you’ve never done any serotonergic substances, I would go with LSD, as I feel like it’s much… “easier”… than mushrooms. Mushrooms feels like conversing with a deity older and larger than the galaxy, whereas taking LSD is sort of like being visited by a mischievous demigod.

Anyway, that’s because despite fixing your body to be able to feel good, you also need to prompt it to feel good, and that’s just something a depressed person might literally be incapable of doing. You know how memory is contextual? Like how a certain smell can just… unlock a memory you know you knew you had, but you just didn’t sort of have… access to? Well, memory is contextual not just in regards to external stimuli, but also internal stimuli. In a certain mood, we more easily recall other times when we were in that mood, and it’s harder to remember things which you experienced in a wildly different mood. This can get so bad that you’re essentially depressed for so long that the default setting gets so far from happy that you literally can not access happy memories anymore, so you don’t experience happiness, and because you don’t, you can’t, ad infinitum.

That’s why the importance of the serotonergic substances. SSRI’s work with the same assumption; “increasing serotonin levels should help”. But serotonin isn’t happiness. Happiness is very much just the other side of the coin from anxiety. So SSRI’s just don’t work, because the idea behind them is flawed. They never get you to unlock those happy memories. Which is why ecstasy, LSD, shrooms, anything serotonergic (ie working on the serotonin system) taken at a sufficient dose will crank up your brain to a very anxious/happy (sometimes it’s hard to differentiate which, which is where the “bad trip” ‘myth’ comes from. not exactly a myth, but it’s not a “bad trip” as much as it’s “too big of a dose for that specific person in that setting causing too intense an experience they don’t have the experience to handle”), which then unlocks all the memories of times when you experienced happy (and possibly also anxious) states of mind.

Once that intense experience of a night or a night and day is over, then you’ll have the capability to remember those things, which is assumed to be the reason why shroom therapy can yield benefits of warding off depression in the terminally ill for up to months.

https://broadview.org/magic-mushrooms-are-helping-terminally-ill-patients-go-out-on-a-high/

And the benefits are that if you do actually still want to kill yourself, you’ll basically have peace of mind over it, and if you really did come out of a trip explaining how you’ve just seen it all and don’t need to exist anymore, I’d be way more likely to believe you than now when I know you have a caloric deficienc