In what way? I haven’t upgraded between major releases on Debian before.

Intel Arc integrated graphics.

Are you using the liquorix kernel?

I can only see one downvote and four upvotes from here - I think you’re good!

I had problems with waking from sleep/hibernate, audio issues (total dropouts as well as distortion in screen-recording apps), choppy video playback and refusal to enter fullscreen, wonky cursor scaling, apps not working as expected or not running at all. I’ve managed to fix most of these or find temporary workarounds (grateful for flatpaks for once!) or alternative applications. But the experience was not fun, particularly as there was only a 2 week return window for the laptop and I needed to be sure the problems weren’t hardware design/choice related. And I’m finding it 50/50 whether an app actually works when I install it from the repo. There’s a lot less documentation for manually installing things as well and DNF is slow compared to apt…

I don’t want to say for certain that Fedora as a distro is to blame but I suspect that it is. I miss my Debian days.

What makes Debian 12 a painful distro to upgrade?

It doesn’t seem possible to use TAB in keybaord shortcuts yet. I think it would be a good feature to have and would make sense!

I currently have Next Image set to ctrl+]

Yeah, sounds valid.

I think it mostly depends on whether your pet has thumbs and how tall it is.

Novelousness.

Ah OK, I understand. Yes, it sounds like it would make sense for GIMP to offer the option to immediately crop in that case.

If it’s a helpful alternative, you can also drag an image from another application onto the GIMP logo above the toolbox to open it as a new file, rather than pasting it onto one which is already open. I often do this when I want to open something from my web browser :)

The machine doesn’t belong to me. I’ve had this experience on other computers running Windows.

I have to use Windows at work and by early afternoon if I’m not forced to reboot for an update I have to reboot because the machine has basically ground to a halt.

Why does Windows slow down the longer it’s been booted?

I picked and ate a leaf of what I thought was wild garlic but it wasn’t. It felt like a bomb had gone off in my mouth. I sprinted home and washed my mouth out with everything I had, including wine and 51 pastis but nothing helped.

No permanent damage afaict.

You’re welcome - I hope you have a good time with it!

If you have pasted an image but not yet made any selections on it then I would have thought that there is no selection to crop to yet. What are you trying to crop?

I actually think it would be cool to be in your 70s - you can still do most things and can mostly think straight but other people think you cannot and so they don’t bother pestering you.

No probs :)

I’m kind of ambivalent about the criticism of GIMP’s UI/UX; I can see it from both sides. Over the years I’d tried it out a few times when I was having problems with Photoshop but it wasn’t immediately obvious how to replicate my workflow. I figured that GIMP was either poorly designed or simply didn’t have the functionality at all and quickly lost faith in it. Around a year ago though, I started exploring it more seriously as I had switched to Linux at home. For some reason, this time I had a ‘flashback’ to when I’d been lost and frustrated when I first started learning Photoshop 20 years ago. After investing some time in watching some GIMP tutorials, reading some articles/forums/documentation and messing around - in exactly the same way as I had with Photoshop - I was able to work 95% as effectively in GIMP as in PS.

I’ve also explored switching to it from Photoshop in a professional setting and what I’ve concluded is that there are a few tools that currently work more efficiently in PS (and some in GIMP to be fair, although less of them), printing is less flexible (at least on Windows 10/11) and that hardware acceleration would be welcome! Once you know where everything is in the menus and dialogues and either learn or change the keyboard shortcuts, the UI is not such a barrier to using GIMP effectively in my opinion.

Where it is a barrier though is when you’ve been using Photoshop week in week out for a couple of decades and it’s seared into your neural pathways! Even now, because I’m still using Photoshop at work, I get mixed up. As things stand right now, with Adobe’s vast resources and the fact that Photoshop has become a universal standard for raster editing, it will be hard for something like GIMP to catch up with it in popularity, let alone overtake it and start setting the agenda for UI/UX expectations. GIMP developers have to spread comparatively minuscule volunteer hours between adding new features, innovating new ones, fixing bugs and improving the UX. On the one hand I think it would be sad to see GIMP losing some of its identity in attempting to be a direct clone of Photoshop but on the other hand I think that it may be the only way it will win over enough users from Photoshop to break out into the mainstream and receive the support that it needs to develop at a faster pace. It should definitely be pointed out too that Adobe are also actively making their own offering worse by ‘enshittifying’ it, seeking to exploit users work and becoming unreliable on some people’s hardware. Just the fact that nobody can be sure whether or not work done for clients using Adobe software can be exclusive any more blows my mind in a professional context.

TLDR: I think GIMP is great but different, just got an awesome update, and has every chance of getting even better!

Sorry, I wasn’t expecting to write such a long comment. Time to have lunch!

That’s cheating!

But then I have been on 3.0rc2… 🤫

Yeah that would be sweet!

Yes I agree, great news!

Just to clarify for anyone reading this who hasn’t heard - GIMP 3.0 brings non-destructive editing.

It looks like the UI is going to be pretty similar for the time being but the developers have set up dedicated groups to work on it. I’m probably one of the rare people who is used to it/likes it as it is and doesn’t really want to re-learn it if it changes but anything that helps new people get involved and feel positive using and improving GIMP is welcome in my book. On the surface it might look like all that has happened in 3.0 is the introduction of Layer Effects but my understanding is that the whole thing has been re-written to make it easier and faster to make future progress with it. Hopefully this will be a reboot for GIMP!

Finally a tip; to rotate a layer press Shift+R :)

Haha it’s OK, I’ve been testing out the pre-release versions - you should be able find everything :)