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        They open in a window separate from the browser and don’t display the browser toolbar, so not just shortcuts.

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          The main purpose of PWAs is not to remove the browser toolbar but rather cache most of the website to improve speed and reduce data usage if I am not wrong, there are external tools to get rid of the toolbar but Firefox dropped the PWA spec which includes a lot more than just that.

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            The caching is the result of service workers which Firefox definitely supports.

            edit: oh just scrolled down and saw you already commented that later.

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        On Android at least, Firefox PWA’s don’t seem to support registering system-level things (like ‘Share To’ handlers) - you need to use a Chrome PWA for that…

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        Real PWAs, though PWAs aren’t that different from shortcuts tbh

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          As far as I know their main purpose is to cache various parts of the website properly which is a lot more than just a shortcut.

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            Regular websites can do that too using service workers - Lemmy’s webapp uses this to show an error when an instance is unreachable

            What we call a PWA is usually just a webpage with a webmanifest, and a service worker script to manage loading those cached resources you mentioned

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              Seems like you are right, the caching for proper offline usage and use with very limited internet connections is all done trough service workers. Their main job seems to be system integration and while Firefox Android kind of sucks at that too it doesn’t seem like they ever cut that down so they just dropped it for desktop users.

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    For what is worth, the pwaforfirefox project works beautifully, I use it with discord, teams and tidal everyday.

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        The native client has application level access to the rest of your machine. They use this to run process loggers “for the activity display”, or the button that allows you to quickly stream a game if it’s running. They could theoretically use this access for keylogging or accessing the mic without explicit user permission. Running the Discord web client keeps the source of collected telemetry within the webbrowser, which doesn’t offer keylogging or process logger features, and requires explicit user permission to give websites access to a microphone, camera, or the screen for streaming.

        Yes, they do process log on the native client, and from my own GDPR data request it appears they keep this data in detail for a couple of years: https://github.com/snapcrafters/discord/issues/43

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        1. better privacy as no process scanning or direct access to cam/mic
        2. better performance as discord desktop app for windows still uses 32bit electron, which makes it slower than the web app
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        In Linux the native client is quite bad,especially streaming, as its not hardware accelerated and doesn’t stream sound. The browser version doesn’t have any of those issues.